What to do when your bored with a scale

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   Since it stormed all day I took the chance to do some weighing. I did some .223 cases and bullets. I hope my numbers don't bore you.

CASES, 4 of each at random:

FED

98.7 98.4 97.7 97.5 spread 1.2

RP

93.8 95.2 94.1 96.1 spread 2.3

WIN

95.9 95.1 96.1 95.2 spread 1.0

PMC

92.9 94.2 93.5 93.1 spread 1.3

LC

93.6 94.6 94.9 95.0 spread 1.4

Hornaday Bullets:

SP

60 60.3 60.1 60.2 60.2

V-max

55.3  55.4 55.2 55.2 55.4

I was glad to see the bullets being close, but was surprised to see such a spread in the cases, maybe it's normal. I'm sure other people have weighed cases, do you see such spreads? How about brand to brand? Also, is not LC considered Military brass? I would have expected them to be on the heavier side. Oh well, any comments?

Edited by bkcorris

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bkcorris Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The Cheesehead Savage Joined: 11 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2120	Topic: What to do when your bored with a scale Posted: 03 August 2003 at 15:00
	Since it stormed all day I took the chance to do some weighing. I did some .223 cases and bullets. I hope my numbers don't bore you. CASES, 4 of each at random: FED 98.7 98.4 97.7 97.5 spread 1.2 RP 93.8 95.2 94.1 96.1 spread 2.3 WIN 95.9 95.1 96.1 95.2 spread 1.0 PMC 92.9 94.2 93.5 93.1 spread 1.3 LC 93.6 94.6 94.9 95.0 spread 1.4 Hornaday Bullets: SP 60 60.3 60.1 60.2 60.2 V-max 55.3 55.4 55.2 55.2 55.4 I was glad to see the bullets being close, but was surprised to see such a spread in the cases, maybe it's normal. I'm sure other people have weighed cases, do you see such spreads? How about brand to brand? Also, is not LC considered Military brass? I would have expected them to be on the heavier side. Oh well, any comments? Edited by bkcorris
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macca Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149	Posted: 03 August 2003 at 20:22
	I weigh all new batches of cases and have found similar results.Lapua and norma have the smallest spread in a batch but may vary batch to batch.Of the common brands win allways seems to be the smallest spread. With projectiles I weighed 400 sierras to get 100 match projectiles.Most of the others were only.1 either way but some were .4. Berger projectiles are very close to the mark with 90% falling on the money and the rest at .1 either way. Win projectiles about 50% of the last batch were on the money then a spread of .2 either way. Anyone who only hunts may not be worried by this but in competitions measured to .001 to decide winners it can be a killer.Have a good one macca.
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dakotasin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099	Posted: 03 August 2003 at 23:09
	in an effort to see how tight of a group i can shoot, i'll weigh everything. part of my philosophy on handloading is consistency/repeatability. i've found hornady bullets to have quite an amazing spread of weights. for instance, i weighed 100 162 grain btsp interlocks in 7 mm and came up w/ an amazing variance in weight (up to 1.8 grains either way). i was amazed that they would group at all...but, not only did they group, they proved to be the most accurate bullet in my rifle. as far as cases go, i've found winchester to be pretty consistent. just depends how high your standards are for how many cases will wind up culled. when i do development, every case weighs the same (right down to the .1 grain) - this eliminates at least 1 variable in loading... and the more variables you can control, the faster the development process goes.
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Spot shooter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Left BSB in Disgrace Banned Joined: 19 June 2003 Location: Bahrain Status: Offline Points: 0	Posted: 04 August 2003 at 00:20
	bk, Remington loading components are the worst on the market period. They have always had a greater deviation than any others I've found. Winchesters are uniformly pretty tight give the cost. (new cartridges are an exception for first couple of years - debugging) This is why remington gun's are so good - If they can shoot that crappy ammo and still group then their rifle consistancy is good. Best way to get good groups - shoot winchester ammo out of a remington gun. Note I currently don't own a remington. spot

norse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 14 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 16	Posted: 04 August 2003 at 05:14
	BK, when Im bored with a scale I lose weight... But seriously, I found it interesting there was so much weight diff. in cases. And was very surprised about the Hornady bullets. I have a 17hmr and only shoot vmax or Rem out of it and it goups great. Spot shooter, I would have to agree, I currently have 3 Remingtons, and shoot winchester out of 2 of them. The third is a Rem.597 and I found it shoots best with Rem. yellow jacket hp.