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    Posted: 13 November 2024 at 10:05
Just wondering how many of you guys weigh every rifle reload powder change.  As opposed to using a volumetric powder device.


For 10  years i measured every load charge.  even cut som cylinder grains in perfect size.

Then at the range one day, I watched two guys with 25 pound bench rifles, 222 rem loading at the bench developing loads.  They were shooting 1/2 Moa at 100 yards.  Then I noticed that they were not measuring the powder charge, but using a Lyman 55 (aka door knocked).  They said that the powder charge was the least critical factor.  And their groups proved that to me.

Bought a 55 Lyman that wek and that is hor I charge cases.  I do measure every 5-6 cases.  Always correct.
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We weigh all the "Brass" loads, rifles, and pistols.
 We weigh all the steel and tungsten shotshells.
The only ones we measure are lead shotshells.Geek
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Interesting topic. 

I use a Redding powder measure. I adjust it until I get 3-4 charges that are real close to the same on my balance beam scale. Then I weigh every 5-10 charges as I load cases. 

If I am developing a load I weigh every powder charge. 
I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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I do about the same.

I also use a large funnel sitting into the clear plastic powder measure.  And I keep filling the funnel to try and maintain a given level/pressure inside the measuring chamber.
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My old powder measure (Herters) had two "shelves", for lack of a better term, inside the cylinder that accomplished the same thing. I gave it to my kid to help him get started loading. My Redding doesn't have that but is still pretty accurate. 
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My Lyman has 3 metering rods:  large, fine, and  very fine.
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I have read that the Lyman 55 is one of the best powder measures ever made. 

I just looked and they still make them. 
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Lyman has always made pretty good stuff.  

My kid has a RCBS measure, I think it uses a threaded bolt like metering chamber.
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My Redding measure uses the threaded bolt like chamber. 

It's pretty accurate but it depends on the powder. With ball powder it's right on. with extruded powder it's pretty good.
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Extruded powder doesn't meter well with any volumetric measure; always having to cut cylinder shaped grains.  I load wxtruded powders almost exclusively; if I could find a 'good cuting" measure I'd buy it.  Now, it sometimes takes a hard bang to get it cut. 
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The Redding doesn't easily cut cylinder grains. 

In the past I've had an old Herters and a Hornady measure and the Redding is the most accurate one I've had.
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My bro has an automatic loading scale, RCBS.  He likes it but not super accurate, and slow.
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My son has an automatic scale. I think his is a Lyman. He seems to like it but I have heard they are really sensitive to temperature. 

I think I'll stick with my balance beam scale. I don't know if its 100% accurate but it is consistant. I'm more concerned with consistancy than I am knowing exactly how heavy the load is. 
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We weigh everything for loading any brass loads. 
A funny thing, shotgun loading is very different then brass. you HAVE to find an exact load for what you are loading, hull/primer/powder/types of shot ext.
BUT then use bushings to measure everything. I have had them be several .001 one way or the other sometimes .1 . What's up with that? I do weigh everything, shot, powder, even buffer. On steel, I will COUNT pellets so there the same count in every shell.
BIG shot I hand stack them into the hull.


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On shotgun loads I just go with what the bushings drop. I feel pretty comfortable doing that because I don't load shotgun shells anywhere close to max. Usually about half way between min and max. 

They work good enough to kill a lot of pheasants and a whole lot of clay pidgeons over the years. 
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