weigh vs measure
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Topic: weigh vs measure
Posted By: BEAR
Subject: weigh vs measure
Date Posted: 13 November 2024 at 10:05
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Just wondering how many of you guys weigh every rifle reload powder change. As opposed to using a volumetric powder device. For 10 years i measured every load charge. even cut som cylinder grains in perfect size. Then at the range one day, I watched two guys with 25 pound bench rifles, 222 rem loading at the bench developing loads. They were shooting 1/2 Moa at 100 yards. Then I noticed that they were not measuring the powder charge, but using a Lyman 55 (aka door knocked). They said that the powder charge was the least critical factor. And their groups proved that to me. Bought a 55 Lyman that wek and that is hor I charge cases. I do measure every 5-6 cases. Always correct. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 13 November 2024 at 12:14
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We weigh all the "Brass" loads, rifles, and pistols. We weigh all the steel and tungsten shotshells. The only ones we measure are lead shotshells.  ------------- Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 13 November 2024 at 20:59
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Interesting topic. I use a Redding powder measure. I adjust it until I get 3-4 charges that are real close to the same on my balance beam scale. Then I weigh every 5-10 charges as I load cases. If I am developing a load I weigh every powder charge. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 14 November 2024 at 14:15
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I do about the same. I also use a large funnel sitting into the clear plastic powder measure. And I keep filling the funnel to try and maintain a given level/pressure inside the measuring chamber. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 15 November 2024 at 16:27
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My old powder measure (Herters) had two "shelves", for lack of a better term, inside the cylinder that accomplished the same thing. I gave it to my kid to help him get started loading. My Redding doesn't have that but is still pretty accurate. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 18 November 2024 at 10:05
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My Lyman has 3 metering rods: large, fine, and very fine. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 18 November 2024 at 13:11
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I have read that the Lyman 55 is one of the best powder measures ever made. I just looked and they still make them. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 20 November 2024 at 09:02
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Lyman has always made pretty good stuff. My kid has a RCBS measure, I think it uses a threaded bolt like metering chamber. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 24 November 2024 at 15:21
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My Redding measure uses the threaded bolt like chamber. It's pretty accurate but it depends on the powder. With ball powder it's right on. with extruded powder it's pretty good. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 25 November 2024 at 08:38
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Extruded powder doesn't meter well with any volumetric measure; always having to cut cylinder shaped grains. I load wxtruded powders almost exclusively; if I could find a 'good cuting" measure I'd buy it. Now, it sometimes takes a hard bang to get it cut. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 26 November 2024 at 17:33
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The Redding doesn't easily cut cylinder grains. In the past I've had an old Herters and a Hornady measure and the Redding is the most accurate one I've had. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 03 December 2024 at 09:47
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My bro has an automatic loading scale, RCBS. He likes it but not super accurate, and slow. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 03 December 2024 at 14:08
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My son has an automatic scale. I think his is a Lyman. He seems to like it but I have heard they are really sensitive to temperature. I think I'll stick with my balance beam scale. I don't know if its 100% accurate but it is consistant. I'm more concerned with consistancy than I am knowing exactly how heavy the load is. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 03 December 2024 at 15:06
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We weigh everything for loading any brass loads. A funny thing, shotgun loading is very different then brass. you HAVE to find an exact load for what you are loading, hull/primer/powder/types of shot ext. BUT then use bushings to measure everything. I have had them be several .001 one way or the other sometimes .1 . What's up with that? I do weigh everything, shot, powder, even buffer. On steel, I will COUNT pellets so there the same count in every shell. BIG shot I hand stack them into the hull.
------------- Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 05 December 2024 at 20:27
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On shotgun loads I just go with what the bushings drop. I feel pretty comfortable doing that because I don't load shotgun shells anywhere close to max. Usually about half way between min and max. They work good enough to kill a lot of pheasants and a whole lot of clay pidgeons over the years. ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |