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Why We Carry During Hunting Season

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    Posted: 11 September 2005 at 19:41

 Welcome to swamp huntin'. Can you say .357?

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I hate snakes.  Can you Identify it?

Looks to dark for a cottonmouth (I'm a northerner, we call them Copperheads up).  Using that term copperhead in a sentence, like "look at that big dead Copperhead".

Souther Eastern water snakes can be really big.  I killed a ten footer once.  And they are aggressive as hell.

I carry when hunting in the south in the summer, I carry on my feet 12 inch snake proof boots and snake proof chaps.

Did I say I hate snakes....all snakes.

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That swimmin' hole doesn't look very inviting.  Hell yeah I'd be packin' there!
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Hell, I'd be carrying a sub gun through there! Can anyone say UMP?
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  Yep they are cottonmouths or water moccasons,very aggesive,will try to get in a boat with you,will sneak into a baitbox as well. Copperheads here are brown and don't go in the water. Katrina has these guys doing weird stuff lots of them are out in the open from what my buddies are telling me. Yep snake boots and I'm not hunting by the water anytime soon,and I even got a rifle tag for the refuge,thats a big deal here and guess who lives there. 
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Seems even the non venomous water snakes are agressive. I don't hunt near water, so they are not an issue with me. Rattlers and copperheads are a different situation. Never seen an agressive copperhead, but some rattlers are agressive. I carry my Para Ordnance P12 with me everywhere. For two legged snakes in town, I carry a good, +P 200 grain JHP. If I'm in no legged snake country, I chamber a CCI shotshell, followed by a magazine of the JHPs. The CCI shotshells in .45ACP throw a good pattern, I've killed cotontails at 10 yards with them. Any snake at 5 yards or less will lose all intrest in stuff pretty quick.

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Yup, snake shot, the more, the bigger, the better.  Trigger, I put two snake shots in, then hardcore rounds.  One, if I get just a wee bit rushed & miss with the first one, then #2 is there.  Two, it's not unknown for snakes to come in groups.  And furthermore, if I got social problems, I figure gettin snake-shotted is NO fun & the third one's gonna be comin' along real soon now.

When I was at Ft. Leonard Wood a while ago; maybe even a-while-and-a-half now, they warned us that cottonmouths would possible be in the drains of the rifle pits at the range.  This was Oct-Nov-Dec.  We thought the D.I.'s were B.S.'ing us until a kid about 25 yards down the firing line from me emptied several rounds into the pit after he'd walked up to it.  This was with an M14 too.  T'was a few minutes before things settled down.  But I always looked real close at that G-D drain hole before I jumped in the pit after that.

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My son is down in Mississippi cleaning up after Katrina. He's already got some first hand experience with some cousins to the two in the picture. Says they are all over in the debris piles etc. There was just a good article in Handloader about building your own snakeshot loads using gas checks for top wads. As I recall they were using #12 shot. Advantage was that you could build them on most any straight walled caliber. RD

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Gas checks work really well. Use one as a wad and one as an overshot wad with a drop of fingernail polish to seal it.

44 mag users can start with a 30-40 Kraig case, resize it, trip the rim if you gun has recessed case heads, then trim to cylinder length. I use a thin cork overpowder wad, then a gasscheck, the load of #8 or #9 and a gasscheck as a overshot wad with nail polish. Will tear up anything out to about 20 yards.

For variety, try a JUNK YARD DOG load. Instead of shot, cut 1/4" pieces of 14 or 18 guage copper or aluminum wire and stack it neatly in the case in as many levels as the case will hold and seal with a drop of wax and a bit of nail polish. You can also alternate with a layer of wire and a layer of shot. It will rip apart and NAIL a snake to a tree limb. I got the ideal from an old GUNS MAGAZINE back in 1980. Boy does it work!



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Dang that's a big snake!

Sounds like Mickey has the recipes for some good 'home growed' snake medicine loads listed above, though.

 

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I am also in Katrina land... and the snakes were not nice before.... I like to use a contender 410 and I load the shot with some lead buckshot #4s and birdshot 6s sometimes a 0 buck or #1 or #3 buck slips in too... the variety is interesting... the larger buck will penetrate a board over and inch thick; the pattern is ridiculously dense at snake ranges and over.. I just use the large birdshot as the filler around 4 or five buckshot depending on the mix... try it you will like it..

of course the usual warnings apply, these work fine in my snake charmer and contender 44 / 410 with the 3" shells... I just got to do it my self, sort of..

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Thanks for the ideas.

Nice to see you here on BSB,  Welcome.

I have a fear of snakes.  Most of my hunting is in New York and Pennsylvania (thanks good Hillary left here last night).  And not many snakes to worry about and plenty of clear stuff to walk free in.

But each year I hunt florida palmetto swamps and south Carolina.  These places are ridiculous.  I really count on my firearm or bow that I'm carrying for "dispatchment".  But when i was younger carried a K-22 with shot cartridges or a 357 Ruger SA with bird shot.  Stopped carrying when the weight got too heavy (I got too old and out of shape).  Thinking now after your post, I might make up some 38 handload  snake shot and carry it in my 2" alloy frame snub nose 38.

Good thought in your post,, hope to see you continue here.

What part of the country (or other country ) do you hail from Ken'

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