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    Posted: 28 June 2003 at 11:19

 

I built a deer rifle for my father when I was in high school for a shop project. I got a 1917 Remington Enfield and used that for the barreled action. Gave the stock to the teacher and used a Bishop stock instead. Cut the barrel down to 25" and turned it, polished it till it was as smooth as we could get. The trigger we replaced with an after market one that I don’t remember the name of. Added Lyman front and read sights, drilled and tapped it for Weaver bases and rings. Added a Weaver K4 scope. My father used this rifle for everything and now that he has passed on it’s now mine again and one day will go to my son. Rifle shot great then and still does to this day. But I don’t see anyone here talking about their 1917’s on BSB. Lawdog

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2003 at 11:58

I have an 03a3. Does that count? lol. I may buy a 1917 Enfield sometime, i just dont know when. Maybe when i finish with my lefty rifle collection.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2003 at 14:44
Simular story, Fagen stock, Williams peep and a used scope. Then veried of into second shot capability with a 35 Remington 760. What followed were shotgun only areas, muzzle loaders and a few misguided years with a 742. Have matured into singleshots in 30-40 & 260 but have strayed back to a pumpgun in 35 Whelen this year. 35 years later I am back hunting with the few that are left, on the same ground, telling many of the same lies. The 1917 was wonderfully acurrate having won me a Hunter Class Rifle title while shooting in a league during high school. But for what ever reason I just have not shot it since then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2003 at 16:15
I've got two. A straight military M1917 Eddystone and a late 40s/early 50s
sporter. I have had others, and examined several more. EVERY Eddystone or Remington 1917 I have checked
will close on a no-go gage. My military is a bit more accurate, I think. The best I have been able to
do with the sporter is about 1 1/2 to 2 inch three shot groups at 100 yards.
I bought the sporter from a gunsmith friend just last year, $80 out the door.
He considered updating the scope and mounts, but knoew I like ( as he put it) "That old crap", so he
dumped it off on me!
My brother hunts with a 1917 Eddystone as well. He's taken a lot of game over the years with it.
I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2003 at 18:41

Lawdog,

I have 2 also: A Remington and a Winchester. They're still in their original military condition. I got them from my brother who got them thru friends in the national guard. They were heavily laden with cosmoline and I had quite a time cleaning them. I had to dismantle all the parts to get that caked material out of them. Most parts are mismatched by serial no. but basically mostly Rem or Win still. I was going to make at least one into a sporterized wildcat, but that's out now. I am contemplating restoring them - at least the stocks. I have a Swedish Mauser M96 that I now would like to restore. The stock has a split near the front bbl band, but the oil is so soaked in the wood that I'm sure epoxy will not bond. I did a lot of work on this rifle a few years ago - another unfinished project. Below is a pic of the M1917 Rem when I got it back from McGowen. I changed my mind on using this for a 375 Whelen Imp and instead used a new Mark X action that he had on the shelf.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2003 at 01:14

Is a .375 Whelan an aught six necked up to .375 cal? That has interested me so as to have something that kicked lighter than a .375 H&H but had more power than a .375 Winchester. Can you neck a .308 cartridge up to .375? That would be a nice little upper end medium bore rifle.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2003 at 03:54

NH,

You're right on that being the '06 necked up to 375. I have the case blown out same as a 35 Whelen Ack Imp. I simply size new 35 Whelens and fire form with a somewhat full charge. My best accuracy has been with 300 grn Hornady RN's. I Have a pic on the Home Page in Gun Pictures. I have an extra fancy Fajen semi-inletted stock still waiting for me in the basement(cool and dry year round; yet another unfinished project). The pic shows a cobbled B. C. stock that was on a VZ24 action. The Fajen will NOT have a recoil pad on it. Kick is quite light and manageable for me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2003 at 04:01

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P. S. You certainly can neck a 308 Win to 375 caliber. When fired the bullet will probably fall on the ground about 10 ft in front of you. Just kidding, but velocities would be very low. The 300 grainers are coming out at about 2200 fps on the 375 Whel Imp. The 308 W body is already improved, so not much can be done to speed things up. I'd stay w/358 Win; it's slow enough.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2003 at 06:55
Currently have one 1917. Winchester production, rebuilt at the Ogden Arsenal toward the end of or just after WW-I. Is blued and has Elmer Keiths stock cartuche. Got it from my Great Uncle's collection. In issue condition. Working a deal to pick up an "Eddystone" that some bung hole tried to customize. All orriginal parts are there but said moron tried to take the hump out of the triggerguard/box mag. He tried rewelding to orriginal contours but buggered the job. Will have to buy replacement.l 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2003 at 07:53

Hey soggy,

If don't have a place to buy parts for the M1917, I have been 100% successful with:

Springfield Sporters, Inc; 2257 Springfield Rd;Penn Run, PA 15765

Ph 724-254-2626

I didn't like the bolt body and condition of the rear sight on the Win and got improved replacements. Bolt was $15.00. You can ask for different levels of condition for nominal cost.

Lucky that that "MORON" didn't cut the rear sight ears off. The '17 is excellent for customizing into the long magnums as the Weatherby's.

A couple of years ago, I saw some unbelievable prices for original '17s. $500 - $700 and condition not as good as mine. I paid $175 each.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2003 at 12:52
Would love to have an Enfield "project", but unfortunately, in my part of the world they are really "pricey" -when you can find one...   I'm stuck with them ol' cheap Mausers.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2003 at 14:00
   EDip, Thanks for the parts lead. I've been doing bussiness with Springfield Sporters for a number of years.  The value of a decent 1917 is just to high to justify building a sporter from one. I have seen good deals in the past on the used rack on converted 1917's and Remington model 30's. It looks like this deal on the Eddystone is going to go through. I have been helping him restore a Swiss Schmidt-Reubin that was not loved or cared for. Just about make ya cry.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2003 at 17:33
Here are my Enfields. The military is a WWI rifle, with
some blueing left, not the parkerized WWII rebuilds. Barrel
date is 3-18. Import marks, so it came from out of country, but
have no idea. Possibly the UK?
The sporter is an early one, originally drilled, tapped, and inletted
for a receiver sight. Later on it was modernized with one of those
new-fangled telescopic sights...a Weaver 28S, made up untill 1939 or so.
Optics still clear, I still hunt with it occasionally. Kinda
like a time machine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2003 at 17:40
Military Enfield and cast bullet group. Three shots group at 50 yards
from a rest. Lee 200 grain RN sized .310, 18 grains of SR4759. Don't let
anyone try to tell you that military rifles won't shoot!
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