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    Posted: 11 May 2011 at 03:30
http://www.gunsandammo.com/blogs/long-gun-journal/2011/04/ba g-job

YouTube        - Hi-Point Pistols: The Ultimate Test

YouTube        - Hi-Point Pistols: The Ultimate Test RELOADED

YouTube        - Hi-Point Pistols: The Ultimate Test MAN VS HI POINT

Pretty tough guns if you ask me.

Note they finally blew it up by making it a pipe bomb by putting a bolt in the end of the barrel and filling the barrel full of powder then clamping end to end so the bolt could not come out and the slide not move. Before this it still shot after they took it apart and ground down the bulge in the barrel again.
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Yea I know it is not a Glock a Sig or a 1911 but this shows that they are pretty tough guns and can stand up to a lot of abuse and still work enough to fire. If they can withstand these torture test  I would suspect they are dependable enough. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote klallen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2011 at 08:29

torture tests like this are entertaining.  mostly useless to gleen a whole heck of alot from, but entertaining, just the same.

i tend to put more value on a firearm's reputation based on a long standing body of work rather then try to read to much into a 10 minute video clips.  regardless of the handgun being tortured.  but i'll certainly watch.  kinda fun seeing people misuse handguns with no consequence.  i'd never treat my own stuff that poorly.

plus, by the end of the video, that gunsandammo guy actually found a way to make a hi point look good.  ok, that was a cheap shot.  lol.

one thing i gotta say for ya, you are one loyal son-of-a-gun.  so muchso i'm starting to think you might be on hi point's payroll.  you aren't an employee, are ya (tongue in cheek)?

enjoy your gun.

talk to ya later.

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Nope no employee but just sick of folks bashing products they have no personal experience from or hopping on the internet band wagon. HI Point I have found out has been in business for over 24 years so they are not a new company though some may consider that new compared to some other companies. Like I have stated I went through this same BS when I bought a Henry Lever gun from those that had 22 Lever Winchesters and Marlins and to some extent Brownings since you do not see many of them around. I heard all the same bullshit they are not made well they have alloy and plastic parts they will never last as long as the other guns yada yada yada.

It was then interesting to see folks that had these guns since the 70's come forward and say they do last and they are good guns. Finally when folks started coming on line and saying how good the Henry guns were the naysayers started to shut up though I suspect you still find a few that will stick to their misinformation.
In case you did not know the Henry guns started when the owner's father who developed the design of their lever gun had them made in Germany by ERMA they were later imported by Ithica as their model 72 and later by Iver Johnson before they went by the Henry name. After the folks who said they would never last found out the history they really did not have a leg to stand on. Yep I own a Henry 22 Mag and it works flawlessly. Henry also is one that has a great customer service.




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you're sick of it, huh?  well, you buy from the discount rack, you also buy the reputation that follows those products home with ya.  something you'll just have to deal with.  you don't buy low end tasco and try to convince folks you're getting leupold quality.  folks just aren't going to listen.  and rightly so.

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So now your bashing Tasco scopes??? I think you have a bit of the gun snob in you.  I just bought a Target Tasco Scope 10x40X 50MM with a target dot for shooting Silhouette 22 with. I had to sell a gun to a friend to afford to buy it and an other 22 I wanted. Like it or not some of us can only afford what we can afford. I would rather have a Tasco on my 22 and enjoy shooting it then wanting a Leupold and going with out.

Since you used the term Products which is plural I guess now your saying Henry's are not fine rifles because they are not a Winchester or Marlin Lever gun. I do not know why not the price is up there. My Henry 22 mag retails for over 400 dollars.  I guess my two Marlin Bolt Action model 80s that I own are not good guns because they were not 500 dollar guns. Funny lots of folks sure like them Marlin Bolt action guns.
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"I just bought a Target Tasco Scope 10x40X 50MM with a target dot"

you had to sell a gun to buy a $145 10-40x tasco?  bummer, dude.

i consider myself neither a gun snob nor a basher of tasco scopes.  someone seated a little more in reality then fantasy, maybe.  but not a basher of tasco.  i don't think you can really be considered a tasco basher if you have owned and currently own several of them.  1 generic 4-16x40mm that came with my savage .223 package bought years ago.  similar quality along the lines of the low end target model you just picked up.  a utilitarian type scope.  does nothing great.  the scope was immediately removed and sat for a couple years until my .17hmr was purchased. not much is required of this scope on this rifle, which is about all i'd want to ask of it. it's performed well in this VERY low stress, low impact type of environment.  i have 2 discountinued exp models. these were the ones with the oval objective bell and were mostly an experiment (or curiousity). i had a 3-9x ride on my .270 for a couple years. i used it successfully hunting and it handled that level of recoil just fine. a good enough scope but i replaced it because the adjusting turrets were exposed. no covers.  a feature i never new about until i had the scope in hand. you had to be very careful with it. any bumping around in the truck or accidental knock against a leg, brush or something would unknowingly change my zero and i got tired of having to be so careful with it. i doubt i'll mount it on a rifle again because of this single, ill-conceived feature. the other exp is a 1.5-5x model that worked on my .307. it handled this recoil level fine. it's adjustments were concealed with caps, so better thinking went into it then the 3-9x. but it has been replaced with better glass, too.  both available for sale if you need a couple more lower end scopes, for anything.  these next tasco's are what i consider the top end of tasco quality over the years.  i have 1 custom shop 8-40x56 that did most of its work on my old 7mmrum. a great scope. a big, heavy scope.  japanese made before they switched the line over to china made and let quality to bye-bye. it's what was used getting into vha's 500 and 1000 yrd. shooting clubs. it later served on a .243 for 500 - 700 yd. varminting and now sits, waiting for a new home.  way to much magnification for the ranges of the .243.  1 super sniper fixed 20x42mm. this is the scope now on my revamped 7mmrum rifle. i'm not even sure it's still considered a tasco product as the make originally was but we'll list it as such, cause i'm not sure.  a very nice scope.  clear.  bright.  it's my long range varminting scope, now.  serving very nice in this roll.  finally, 2 titan models. in my opinion, these were / are one of the best made tasco's they ever put together. another experiment, of sorts, as i'd never known anyone who'd used them before i made my purchases. a 1.25-4.5x28mm has been on my #1 .416remmag since the rifle was purchased. it's handled two load developments and range practice without batting an eye. the other has become a very special scope to me. it's a 3-12x52mm with mil dot reticle that went on the .280ai build, using my grandfathers old springfield action. it's been on several exotic hunting trips and used alot during the general big game season up here in mt. to say i love the scope, would be an understatement.

so see.  i've worked plenty with tasco.  while they're out there, the list of "good" tasco scopes is short.  the list of "great" tasco scopes is even shorter.

i've not worked with either the henry product.  i've not personally heard the negativity surrounding this product like i have that follows the hi-point brand.  take that for what you will.

"I guess my two Marlin Bolt Action model 80s that I own are not good guns because they were not 500 dollar guns."

they're not even $200 guns, jh.  and no, i wouldn't say they're not good guns.  my hmr's a marlin bolt.  a good gun.  a sub-$200 gun.  works fine.  functions well.  has killed loads of varmints from gophers to badgers.  again, i've not heard the negativity swirl around marlin that would even come close to what you'd hear about hi-point.  again, take that for what it's worth.

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Glad to see we agree on some things. As far as selling a gun I sold a K31 with dies and a scope and mount on it for 300 bucks so I could buy the target scope and I had enough left over to buy a Sears branded Marlin 80 as a spare rifle that I have a Bushnell 22 scope on 4X. I liked the K31 but reloading for it was a pain sizing 284 brass ect. I was given a older Remington 742 that I plugged the gas port so it only operates when I operate the bolt to save wear and tear on the receiver. I could have spent money converting it to a pump like Remington did but this way it cost me nothing and it works fine. It is my cast bullet gun. So I did not really miss the K31 as both are 30 caliber. Now the Remington acts like a straight pull. LOL and this way I got the scope I needed and an other 22 rifle. 
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Henry went through the same negativity a few years ago but now they have a lot of folks that love them. I am seeing the same on the HI Points. NO they are not a 1911 or a Glock they are what they are but if they work which they do and they are tough gun for the money and their warranty I do not feel like I got took at all. In fact the gun is supposed to come with a Ghost Ring Rear sight as a other option. The guy I bought it from had moved and I suspect he either misplaced the box it came in or it is packed away and he did not want to mess looking for it. I did not even bother asking him Insead I called HI POINT  and they shipped me one out the same day at no charge along with a manual  I suspect it will be here tomorrow I hope. The only HI Points I have seen that needed some tweaking that I read on line was the 40's the others all have reps of working fine. Issue with the 40s was polish the feed ramp and adjusting magazine lips and I have seen other gun companies guns with folks doing the same tweaks. My 45 shot just fine with out a hitch.
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Hi Point makes a good product, both accurate and durable. Also heavy.
They are good deals for the money. I had a High Point carbine. It was
very accurate, but the ergonomics made it uncomfortable for me. I paid
125.00 for it and it was well worth it. One of the gun rags (G&A I think)
put it high on their list of 380's.
Lower prices mean lower ( but often acceptable) quality. I use a lot of
lower priced scopes for accuracy testing. I can leave it on a rifle that I
don't hunt with. I have lots (150 +) guns. Cheap scopes work fine for
daylight target and load development. I use a quality scope for better
light transmission while hunting.
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