Tanfoglio GT41

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   Good Morning BSB's.  Back in late December, 2008 I jumped on Gunbroker to do some auction surfing.  I immediately came across an auction for a Tanfoglio GT41 who's current bid was in the 325$ range that kinda grabbed me.  It was a nice looking cz75 type handgun.  I knew Tanfoglio, fairly well.  Several months earlier I had gotten a Witness in 10mm that I really liked.  I had no clue what a GT41 was, though.  And the auction was ending in 4 minutes so I did the only rational thing and threw a 400$ bid down (to reset the 15 minute rule) THEN went down to the description to read exactly what I had bid on.

A .41 Action Express ???

No clue.  Pulled out the ole Cartridges of the World and did some reading while the auction timer ran down.  It looked like a decent enough cartridge created in 1986 but one that appeared to have potentially been made obsolete by the introduction of the .40 S&W 3 years later.  Auction ended with no other bids so I got it for 390$ delivered.

She's proven to be a hard case to come by.  And kinda expensive.  Back in 2008, Qual-Cart had brass in stock so that's what I started with.  It's since been a backorder item that I haven't seen available for over a decade.

Thank Goodness for Israel Military Industries (IMI).  Over the years, I've been able to collect a nice supply of their brass with more popping up on Gunbroker fairly regularly.

Visually, you really can't tell a difference between my .40 S&W and .41 AE handloads, side by side, save for the rebated rim on the AE.   And with similar weight bullets, their performance is near identical.

Bullet choices aren't the greatest in .410 for a semiauto.  I worked my handload around the 210 gr XTP.  Using AA#5, it's moving along right around 950 fps.

As with my other Tanfoglio, it really feels nice in the hand.  And it's a comfortable enough round to shoot.  

What started out as a total spur of the moment, impulse purchase that I had no clue about the cartridge and that could have turned out badly if I couldn't have found some brass to feed it, it has really turned into one of my favorite handguns in the safe.    k

Edited by klallen - 14 May 2023 at 11:44

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klallen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby The RockChucker Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331	Post Options Post Reply Quote klallen Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Tanfoglio GT41 Posted: 14 May 2023 at 11:39
	Good Morning BSB's. Back in late December, 2008 I jumped on Gunbroker to do some auction surfing. I immediately came across an auction for a Tanfoglio GT41 who's current bid was in the 325$ range that kinda grabbed me. It was a nice looking cz75 type handgun. I knew Tanfoglio, fairly well. Several months earlier I had gotten a Witness in 10mm that I really liked. I had no clue what a GT41 was, though. And the auction was ending in 4 minutes so I did the only rational thing and threw a 400$ bid down (to reset the 15 minute rule) THEN went down to the description to read exactly what I had bid on. A .41 Action Express ??? No clue. Pulled out the ole Cartridges of the World and did some reading while the auction timer ran down. It looked like a decent enough cartridge created in 1986 but one that appeared to have potentially been made obsolete by the introduction of the .40 S&W 3 years later. Auction ended with no other bids so I got it for 390$ delivered. She's proven to be a hard case to come by. And kinda expensive. Back in 2008, Qual-Cart had brass in stock so that's what I started with. It's since been a backorder item that I haven't seen available for over a decade. Thank Goodness for Israel Military Industries (IMI). Over the years, I've been able to collect a nice supply of their brass with more popping up on Gunbroker fairly regularly. Visually, you really can't tell a difference between my .40 S&W and .41 AE handloads, side by side, save for the rebated rim on the AE. And with similar weight bullets, their performance is near identical. Bullet choices aren't the greatest in .410 for a semiauto. I worked my handload around the 210 gr XTP. Using AA#5, it's moving along right around 950 fps. As with my other Tanfoglio, it really feels nice in the hand. And it's a comfortable enough round to shoot. What started out as a total spur of the moment, impulse purchase that I had no clue about the cartridge and that could have turned out badly if I couldn't have found some brass to feed it, it has really turned into one of my favorite handguns in the safe. k Edited by klallen - 14 May 2023 at 11:44
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 2023 at 12:44
	Nice grab
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 2023 at 18:43
	nice. and a non-striker weapon.
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klallen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby The RockChucker Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331	Post Options Post Reply Quote klallen Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 2023 at 20:00
	Was kind of a funny handload project. It was winter when the gun arrived so I was forced to wait till spring to start development. In my excitement, I dove into the Hornady manual recipe page for the 210 gr XTP and had loads waiting for the first warm day to come. As I reached the end of what I could safely get out of the Qual-Cart cases I was some 200 fps below what Hornady was printing for their max load. I was confused. I reshot loads. I confirmed velocities over a couple chrony's. In the end, I felt kinda stupid. After actually reading their title page for the cartridge, it was pointed out to me that Hornady had developed their load using an UZI with a 16" barrel. lol. I was right where I should be with this sub 5" barreled Tanfoglio. Good Grief. k
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jsgbearpaws1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 02 March 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3606	Post Options Post Reply Quote jsgbearpaws1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2023 at 09:33
	41AE is closer to the 10mm then the 40 or the 44. Considered a very solid choice for deer.
	...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!

klallen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby The RockChucker Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331	Post Options Post Reply Quote klallen Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2023 at 20:00
	I gotta be honest, I don't think I'd feel comfortable pushing this Tanfoglio anywhere close to my 10mm handloads and certainly not my .44mag handloads. Seems like a big ask for such a short case. k
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