Sig 220 or H &K USP 45?

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   I'm looking for a new .45 and am struggling between the Sig 220 and one of  the H & K USP's.  Does anyone have any first hand information or thoughts as I go  through this.  I may carry it from  time to time but not being in law enforcement, I don't need to carry one for duty.
Thanks for your input.

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OK hunter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 20 March 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote OK hunter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Sig 220 or H &K USP 45? Posted: 22 April 2007 at 14:45
	I'm looking for a new .45 and am struggling between the Sig 220 and one of the H & K USP's. Does anyone have any first hand information or thoughts as I go through this. I may carry it from time to time but not being in law enforcement, I don't need to carry one for duty. Thanks for your input.

CB900F Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857	Post Options Post Reply Quote CB900F Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 April 2007 at 15:36
	OK; I don't have any experience with the SIGs, but carry an H&K USPc in .40 myself. It's been on my hip for around 10 years now & never a problem. I do see that H&K has recently released the c (compact) in .45 tactical. That would mean the extremely accurate O-ring threaded barrel. I need one like I need another hole in the head, but man I do believe I got the wants pretty bad. 900F
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OK hunter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 20 March 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote OK hunter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 April 2007 at 15:41
	Thanks for that good information. If given the choice would you prefer the 40 or 45 to carry?

CB900F Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857	Post Options Post Reply Quote CB900F Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 April 2007 at 15:51
	OK; I have no qualms at all about carrying a .40 instead of a .45. Or, bullet placement trumps caliber every time. Practice with what you carry, frequently. 900F
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Kingpin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka Old IronSides Joined: 01 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11716	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kingpin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 April 2007 at 08:36
	If it were up to me, everyone would be armed with S.I.G.'s. That's just me though. I have enough experience with just about all self defense pistols to form an opinion though, and owned just about everything at one time or other. That being said, I mostly carry a 1911, with 8 shot mags. I also have been seen with a SIG P226 and a S&W snubnose .38. I don't think you can go wrong with a H&K, but for myself, SIG is worth every p-enny that you pay for them.........................Kingpin
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dakotasin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099	Post Options Post Reply Quote dakotasin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 April 2007 at 10:03
	a sig 229 in 40 has been my primary carry piece for around 2-3 years now. love it, and everything about it. it is a heavy little beastie, so you must invest in a good gun belt, or it will be uncomfortable. in a decent belt, the thing is actually nice to carry. i have too little h&k experience to have a valid opinion about them. i would also suggest you at least consider a s&w m&p 40... my wife has one, and it is a fantastic weapon. also, the xd-45 is a pretty good choice. i have an xd-40, and it is ok, but the xd-45 would be the way i would go if i were to re-do that purchase. Edited by dakotasin
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CB900F Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857	Post Options Post Reply Quote CB900F Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 April 2007 at 14:17
	Fella's; Garou has an XD40 which we've compared with my H&K USPc .40. The H&K has the better trigger, and enough of a difference that I think it's beyond the variance you find from gun to gun. Other than that, neither one has had a fail-to-fire, or any other problem. The XD is striker fired, the H&K is hammer fired. The XD exists as an alternative to Glock, pretty much the same operation. The H&K has a frame mounted operating lever & can be carried cocked-n-locked ala the 1911 platform. However, it's operating lever is also a decocker, a significant comfort factor over the 1911's. The XD costs a lot less than the H&K. The H&K offers a lot more choosability to the buyer. There are 9 operating functions available to choose from for the buyer of an H&K USP. Then there's quality. The H&K catalog I have shows the group a USP shot at 25 yards. It's a pretty damn good group. It's an outstanding group considering that they deliberately lodged a bullet in the barrel & then fired another bullet into it. Yes, it bulged the barrel. No, the gun did not blow up. And yes, the gun shot a pretty damn good group after that was done to it. If anyone needs the catalog date & page, by all means say so, it's in there. 900F
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24mod12 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 06 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 231	Post Options Post Reply Quote 24mod12 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 June 2007 at 03:54
	I've had a Sig P220 in 45acp to carry since the middle 90's.It's the most accurate firearm out of the box I own.A former USMC armorer told me they're accurate to 50 meters but when I criticized the construction of the 220 he said after I fire 10,20,30,40 or 50,000 rounds thru it come on back and tell him what my thoughts are. When our dept decided to buy Glocks that was one of the reasons I opted out of the training as I hate those weapons,too easy to have an AD. Edited by 24mod12