short range deer rifle.

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   Been hunting NY state and at close thick stuff.  My Kimber 6.5-08 with the Leupold 3-9x wasn't the best.  Figuring 40 yards for shot; need to drop it right there.
So for next year I need to come up with something better.

Well, I got the scope Leupold 1-4x 28.

Rifle?
---Could go with a 44 mag Marlin
---Ruger #3 in 30-40.
---Rem bolt in 7 mag.

Will be shooting smallest weight bullet I can get, at max velocity...disolve-a matic.

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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: short range deer rifle. Posted: 16 December 2018 at 15:35
	Been hunting NY state and at close thick stuff. My Kimber 6.5-08 with the Leupold 3-9x wasn't the best. Figuring 40 yards for shot; need to drop it right there. So for next year I need to come up with something better. Well, I got the scope Leupold 1-4x 28. Rifle? ---Could go with a 44 mag Marlin ---Ruger #3 in 30-40. ---Rem bolt in 7 mag. Will be shooting smallest weight bullet I can get, at max velocity...disolve-a matic.

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 December 2018 at 16:31
	303 British or maybe a 7.62 x54. I think a 30/30 would serve well to.
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788Fan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 August 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 336	Post Options Post Reply Quote 788Fan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 December 2018 at 17:12
	Of the rifles listed, for 40 yards or so, I'd go with the Marlin or #3 with a low power scope. Good luck. 788
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 December 2018 at 17:53
	Problem with the 7.62 x54 is, on close shots the muzzle flash can blind you.

RobertMT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 12 March 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4413	Post Options Post Reply Quote RobertMT Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 December 2018 at 23:03
	It's not listed, but in lever, I'd go with 38-55, over 44mag. Mainly because my Grandpa Sam used one for everything, from deer to moose and it always worked. Neither him nor Grandma Roberts (30/30) ever used scope and mostly hunted by drives, so shots were often short range, on moving game. If you already have 44mag lever, I'd go with 240gr over 180gr, much better performance on deer.
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jsgbearpaws1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 02 March 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3606	Post Options Post Reply Quote jsgbearpaws1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 December 2018 at 01:39
	Nothing drops the hammer like a slug inside a hundred....nothin. An 870 with a short tube slug barrel will make it easily into a carbine length and still remain light enough to carry, and even the smooth bores out to a hundred will put them in at MOdeer. 2 3/4 for a 12 and 3" for a 20 should drop even the biggest of PA bears or deer.
	...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!

MtElkHunter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 10 August 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 587	Post Options Post Reply Quote MtElkHunter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 December 2018 at 13:48
	It's hard to argue with a shotgun slug for less than 100 yards. My personnel short range gun is a marlin lever in 45-70 with a 1.5X5 Leopold scope. It is absolutely deadly at close range and can stretch to 200-250 in a pinch. Another round I really like in close that has less recoil is the 35 Remington, similar to a 30-30 just a bigger hole.
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Irish Bird Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Too many Joined: 01 March 2009 Location: Midwest Status: Offline Points: 5574	Post Options Post Reply Quote Irish Bird Dog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 December 2018 at 14:06
	I think the Ruger #3 would be a neat way to go and very effective too at 40yds.
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TasunkaWitko Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14753	Post Options Post Reply Quote TasunkaWitko Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 December 2018 at 09:51
	My honest opinion is that a .30/30 would be ideal; although there are no flies on the .35 Remington.
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TCLouis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .223 Remington Joined: 11 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote TCLouis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 December 2018 at 20:59
	Off the list, but a lever 45-70.
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 December 2018 at 10:14
	Boy, I think I'd really need to load the 45=70 DOWN to avoid blowing thru a whitetail like a laser. Certainly could use a cast slow moving bullet?

Irish Bird Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Too many Joined: 01 March 2009 Location: Midwest Status: Offline Points: 5574	Post Options Post Reply Quote Irish Bird Dog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 December 2018 at 13:04
	Gotta say the 45-70 is ok for deer the way I do it.........load BP under 405gr cast boolet and launch it from my Trapdoor.
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RaySendero Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 29 November 2005 Location: US South Status: Offline Points: 495	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaySendero Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2018 at 11:44
	d4570 Already mentioned it: I use a 303B with iron sights for close range deer or hogs.
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2018 at 12:09
	Eyes are well beyond using peep or open sights, would love to. Glad I have 50% in my good eye. Scopes are the only way I can hunt. Handgun shooting is getting to be instinct, not aim. BUT>>>the really good news is I can still hunt.

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2018 at 12:20
	Ok, thanks for all the good input. Decisions: The 30-40 Krag Ruger #3, 22 inch barrel, not super light weight but good balance; very, very accurate. The scope: leupold VX-2 1-4x-20mm. Not the besst low light scope, but a true 1x and super clear. Mounts Weaver Quad, 1" double extended (reversed) fo perfect eyerelief. The ammo P++ loaded with RL-7 and Hornady 125 gr SST at 3025 fps. Got all the parts, just need to mount scope, sight in, and load develope. Got 10 months of fun ahead.

Irish Bird Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Too many Joined: 01 March 2009 Location: Midwest Status: Offline Points: 5574	Post Options Post Reply Quote Irish Bird Dog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2018 at 17:53
	A good choice all the way around bear.....no more new #3's since a long time ago now either.
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2018 at 23:25
	Bought my #3 for $85 in 1977 ay LGS. had him toss in a box of ammo! should have bought a dozen. Interesting thing was I bought it on a friday and the local gun club had a 100 yards shoot on satruday, off hand, standing, open sights. I got to the finals on that box of ammo; never even got to sight it in! In the final round, IWas shooting against two Marnies with AR from Quantico. Won the $100 pot. So the gun was basically free. 2 pi$$ed jarheads.

Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 December 2018 at 22:54
	Good choice Bear. I think it will serve you well. Wing master
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2018 at 00:32
	Interesting, I've had the rifle a long time and killed 30+ deer with it. But haven't shot it in20 years or so. since mounting the new scope, I've pulled it up a dozen or so times, feels really good. This is a rifle specificlly for my short, under 50 yard, hunting areas; so I'll probably never shoot it except at the range. But it will be a good friend to take for short walks into the big woods.

Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2018 at 14:16
	It's good to take an old friend out into the woods. Wing master
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.