Wolf 12 gauge sport ammo
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Topic: Wolf 12 gauge sport ammo
Posted By: bkcorris
Subject: Wolf 12 gauge sport ammo
Date Posted: 14 July 2003 at 10:15
Until recently I've been using the bulk pack Winchester shells. I was running low so I though since I've been getting into trap I'd stop and get a whole case of something. Being the cheap scate I am, it had to be cheap! He had cases of wolf for $37. I cannot comment on performance other than it works. I like the astetics though. The winchesters tended to "look" cheap. Aluminum bases, bent bruised and discolored and smeared writing on the shells. The crimps were often deformed. But, they always worked. The Wolf looks perfect. Very crisp clean crimps. Crisp writing, brass bases. Even a purty blue color.
Just saying if you want some inexpensive shot ammo maybe give wolf a try. The looks alone sold me.
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Posted By: .45 COLT
Date Posted: 15 July 2003 at 01:59
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Is that the same Wolf that makes rifle / handgun ammunition? Russian? I've had some bad experiences with their 9mm and .45 ACP - jams and other feed problems being the main ones. Dirty powder, but I don't consider that to be all that bad if it does the job. Maybe their shotgun shells are better?
DC
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Posted By: bkcorris
Date Posted: 15 July 2003 at 02:41
Yes, same parent company. These are made in Spain by SAGA for wolf. I have actually had pretty good luck with wolf, but all I've used is their .223 in a bolt, even got descent accuracy, and a friend used some 9mm.
I plan on using it at a trap shoot this weekend, but that is all single load, but should get a fairly good idea of performance. I haven't used enough yet to tell how dirty it is.
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Stupid people are like a slinky, they don't serve much purpose in the world but they sure are fun to watch tumble down the stairs!
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Posted By: norse
Date Posted: 15 July 2003 at 19:42
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In my opinion, STAY AWAY from this ammo, I have tried the 22, the 762x39 and the 9mm ammo. I have had nothing but trouble with wolf ammo. There are plenty of American ammo that will work fine. Why give money to someone else??
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Posted By: Spot shooter
Date Posted: 16 July 2003 at 00:15
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bk,
Start watchin walmart for cheap AA hulls, some fella's like Remington SPS. You can get flat's of them for just over $40 when they're on sale.
You might want to start looking for a reloader, hord cases, and then reload in the winter. I shoot at least 6 flats a year just for fun. I have an Hornady Apex progressive reloader, and can crank out shells fast. Buy powder by the 4lb canister. Here we shoot 2 16's, and then a handicap every trap shoot which is 300 rounds a day, if it's a state shoot you'll do it for at least three days, maybe 4. 250 rounds in a flat adds up quick!!!
Spot
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Posted By: bkcorris
Date Posted: 16 July 2003 at 04:29
norse,
Sorry to hear that. Maybe it is your firearms or you? I have had nothing but trouble with Remington ammo. The factory stuff I use I usually stick with Winchester as I have pretty good luck across the board with both performance and accuracy.
On the other hand, I have also had good luck with wolf, and this time around I bought a case of their shot shells from a friend at a shop. I give my money to someone else because we americans are for the most part greedy, and even though I buy products of the USA when possible, I will NOT stay exclusive until the quality/cost ratio gets closer to that of some (not all) foreign products.
I must also note that I've only used a few boxes so far, but it is at home practice, and my average hits has increased while useing Wolf shot shells. Coinsidence, maybe, maybe not.
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Stupid people are like a slinky, they don't serve much purpose in the world but they sure are fun to watch tumble down the stairs!
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Posted By: .45 COLT
Date Posted: 17 July 2003 at 01:41
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"we americans are for the most part greedy,"
I don't think that's exclusively an American trait. I've knocked around the world some, and in most places if you pay a man what he asks, he'll damn you for being stupid, try to bargain with him, he'll cuss you for trying to cheat him. Give a beggar a buck, he'll whine because you didn't make it two. We ain't got the corner on greed, not by a long way.
DC
------------- Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.
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Posted By: bkcorris
Date Posted: 17 July 2003 at 10:16
.45,
Not wanting to start a world economics debate, just explaining how my simple mind justifies buying un-american.
However, I would rather buy something made in Belgium, Germany, Spain, Sweden, UK, Phillipenes, or Japan than an American product made in Thiawan or China.
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Stupid people are like a slinky, they don't serve much purpose in the world but they sure are fun to watch tumble down the stairs!
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Posted By: .45 COLT
Date Posted: 18 July 2003 at 01:21
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OK, no economics debate, although I would take exception to all the countries named except China.
Back to Wolf - I remember the other thing I got against it, other than it isn't reliable. The cases are steel, not reloadable. Again, I can't really comment on their shotgun stuff, just the metallics. Dirty I don't mind if performance is what I expect, the gun has to be cleaned anyway, but I want the stuff to work.
------------- Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 July 2003 at 06:29
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Wolf Ammunition
First, I know nothing about Wolf shotgun ammunition.
Second, what follows is an observation, that may be somewhat dated, on Wolf center fire ammunition.
If you choose to use Wolf center fire ammunition, it is recommended that you give your gun, long or short, an extra through cleaning. The production and quality control standards for Wolf center fire ammunition, because of where they are located, are such that it can, over time, depending on the components available to Wolf, which are often very limited, and of sometimes dubious quality, that are then used by Wolf, to meet their production demands, can build a residue that might actually reduce your chamber dimensions.
I'm not a gunsmith, and this is a somewhat dated observation. Times change and so do manufacturers of just about everything, including ammunition. So, I'm merely passing along an observation that came to me from an experienced gunny, who once, like me, wrote at the Evan Marshall web site. I pass it along because he worked extensively with center fire guns, long and short, and ammunition in both Europe and the Middle East during his military career, which, again, was some time ago. Maybe as long as a decade or so. Memory fails me.
Anyway, as I see it, ammunition is a personal preference issue. Your life, your choice.
Me, I'll never tell anybody what to buy, especially ammunition, unless they ask me and then I'll tell them what I use based on the testing and personal knowledge base that I have developed. Heck, that's all any of us should do for none of us knows it all and what works for one person may not be the best choice for someone else. Clearly, we are all different. And different needs require different solutions. About all any of us can do is analyze our needs, gather appropriate information and then make informed choices.
Sometimes, the more I learn the more I realize how little I know. That's why I like web sites like this one. It's a place where we can share what we have learned and I've come to respect experience based learning. Reading is wonderful, but those who have read much and done little, to me, have less credibility than those who have actually done what they are writing about. Many is the time reality has trumped theory, at least in my life. That's why I enjoy and value discussions with experienced folks. I just might learn something new. And, that's all to the good.
CJ
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