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Topic: 1911
Posted By: Wing master
Subject: 1911
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 17:25
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After cleaning my 1911 that has a full length guide rod I've decided I don't want to continue going through life with a sore thumb. The recoil spring plunger has a hole in it for the guide rod to go through and it makes it a pain in the a$$ to disassemble. I'm thinking of replacing it with a GI length rod and a normal plunger thats knurled and doesn't have a hole. . Are their any drawbacks to having a shorter guide rod? I'm thinking that John Moses Browning was a genius. If it needed a longer guide rod he would have put one in it when he designed it. Any thoughts? Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 07:19
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I'm not a 1911 guy. But as I understand it the Full length guide rod is only to add more support for the recoil spring than offered by the original. Seems the original GI rods probably lasted more than any longer rod, because of the years of military use. I have two autos that use the Browning link lock design. I dont know if their guide rods are long or short. How long are your full length and short rods? might read this https://www.1911forum.com/threads/full-length-guide-rod-vs-short-length-guide-rod.259046/ " rel="nofollow - https://www.1911forum.com/threads/full-length-guide-rod-vs-short-length-guide-rod.259046/ ; remember these are just unknown people's opinions. ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: 788Fan
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 08:37
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My 1911 has a full length guide rod. You lock the slide back and unscrew the front half then release the slide and disassemble as usual. The best $4 (many, many years ago) I ever spent was the purchase of a barrel bushing wrench. I, too, got tired of the sore thumb. The thought is that the standard length guide will allow some twist to develop in the spring during recoil. I've shot both and have never noticed a difference. When I built the gun originally, I just put it in. Stay safe. 788 ------------- "We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the universe. That makes us something very special." Stephen Hawking 1942-2018 |
Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 27 February 2021 at 20:14
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I have both standard guide rod and full length guide rod in different 1911's. No issues taking gun down with full length guide rod but you do need a hex wrench (to unscrew the guide rod)to do that and I thought everyone with a 1911 had & used a bushing wrench for take-down. Non issue with either type at least for me. When I was shooting Bullseye regular there was lots of disassembling of the 1911's & can't remember getting a sore thumb anytime. ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 02 March 2021 at 00:16
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I have a wrench that came with my 1911 but I don't use it. I have found that the heel of a magazine fits perfectly into the "U" in the barrel bushing to compress the recoil spring to take the gun apart. That helps but I realized another thing. John Moses Browning was truly a genius. If you loose the recoil spring plunger, as long as you have a standard length guide rod, you can use a spent cartridge case in it's place and keep shooting. It fits perfectly. I wonder if theirs any other things built into the 1911 that I don't know? Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 02 March 2021 at 09:41
Hey WM...The spent case for recoil plunger is a new one for me!  ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 03 March 2021 at 22:27
Also, The heel of the magazine fits perfectly in the "U" in the barrel bushing to compress the recoil spring instead of using your thumb. I just found this one out. Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: North Logan
Date Posted: 17 July 2021 at 10:42
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I gotta admit, after all these years of owning & shooting 1911's, I did not know either of these things! I prefer the standard short recoil spring guide & plug set-up of the original 1911/1911A1 design. If I do run a full length guide rod, I prefer the two piece, that can be disassembled, for ease of field stripping. A fixed, full length guide rod can be a PIA, for sure! -------------   "COLTS & PONY CARS"...
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 17 July 2021 at 12:47
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Actualy like the look of the spent case plunger. cool ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 17 July 2021 at 15:27
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Hey North Logan It's good to see you. Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 20 October 2021 at 22:01
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So just a typical night at the grind when a buddy who was getting some speedy grade work done on his property offered up a RIA 1911 A1 CS9.....just had to help him out at a half price sticker on it. Fun little fella! Gotta try the 9 case for the guide trick. ------------- ...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt! |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 30 October 2021 at 01:35
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Did the 9mm case work? if not I assume a .45 case might work? Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 20:27
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I didn't try the case as they, when loaded, are more valuable then current gold market price. I did set one next to it and it looks to be mighty close to a perfect match. ------------- ...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt! |
Posted By: North Logan
Date Posted: 25 December 2021 at 12:36
Best of the season to you, too! Hoping to stop in & visit BSB more in 2022!  ------------- "COLTS & PONY CARS"...
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Wing master wrote:Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 25 December 2021 at 14:03
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Nice to see you N logan. Merry christmas. Love yourpic of Mustang. It looks like my 1967 289 cu Brittany blue coupe model. Present stable mates include a 2001, british racing green; and a 2021 convertible, gun metal grey.
Do you still have that 'stang???? ------------- “ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.” |
Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 29 December 2021 at 10:16
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Thinkin maybe you just need a ramp instead of a linkage....like a Hi-power has. ------------- ...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt! |
Posted By: North Logan
Date Posted: 29 December 2021 at 17:59
I don't have my black '67 anymore..... I still have the mineral grey '05 GT convertible, though.  Pics here: http://www.baitshopboyz.com/my-new-colt_topic9638.html Happy New Year all! Best of the best for 2022!
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