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Topic: permanent loan rifles.
Posted By: BEAR
Subject: permanent loan rifles.
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 06:05
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Been thinking of stashing rifle in Florida. I hunt a lot there and it would save taking a gun case and a great rifle. Sort of thinking of some thing that could make a 50-60 yard shot on a hog or a bobcat.
Sort of thinking about a 'kitchen behind the door farm house rifle'.
thoughts.
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Posted By: 788Fan
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 06:20
My choice would be a heavier levergun; 356 win, 444, 45/70, 450 Marlin with a low power scope. My goto for a while was a Marlin GuideGun with a XS scout mount and 2.5X Leupold Scout Scope. Wish I still had it. Good luck, 788
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 07:48
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Bear;
How about one of the Savage 99 lever guns? With the rotary magazine you'd have a lot more choices in bullet shape, & the 99 will give you a much larger choice of caliber. The .300 Savage wouldn't be a bad choice either.
900F
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 10:16
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sort of wanting a low cost model. The 99 is great, but they are VERY pricey today. the climate is Florida with salt water, so rust is a problem sitting in someone elses house for a year at a time.
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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 10:40
Mossberg 590 mariner?
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 11:42
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Actually, I've got one of those for the boat when going off-shore (high-jackers). It even has a special waterproof case. But it ain't no rifle. It is great to fire at balloons tossed up in the when I'm air 10 miles out or floating on the surface to simulate an attack. I think a Slugger will go right thru most pirate fiberglass boats, and the extended mag makes if something to deal with.
but it still isn't a rifle. Maybe I need to just take the Mosin to Florida and leave it there!
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 12:45
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BEAR;
Aren't there some Rossi/Puma/whatever leverguns running around in .454 Casull?
900F
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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 13:51
BEAR wrote:
Actually, I've got one of those for the boat when going off-shore (high-jackers). It even has a special waterproof case. But it ain't no rifle. It is great to fire at balloons tossed up in the when I'm air 10 miles out or floating on the surface to simulate an attack. I think a Slugger will go right thru most pirate fiberglass boats, and the extended mag makes if something to deal with.
but it still isn't a rifle. Maybe I need to just take the Mosin to Florida and leave it there! | But he's talking 50-60 yards here. Sug will do everything in Florida with gusto well past 100, and sabots past 150. get the slug and shot barrels, covers all your needs. I've seen Mariners used for under 300 and the extra barrels are about a buck and a quarter. Keeps it on the cheap and they dodge the rust in salty climates.
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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 15:56
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I was thinking some kind of military surplus rifle. Not real cheap, but I was thinking a Sweedish Mauser would be about right. 6.5x55 would be a great caliber.
Wing master
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 18:32
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There's at least half dozen "low end" bolt actions, that go for under $300/400 new. Get one in .308 or /06, throw a low powered scope on it. I prefer the "shotgun" type scopes, 1 1/2 to 4 1/2 power, with heavy reticle.
I don't see how stainless, would help with rust from storage, trigger and springs, are more of concern. A good cleaning/oiling and storage in good gun sock, should solve any rust problems.
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 02:20
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Actually, I have a NIB never touched Marlin 44 mag before the safety. that would do. But I'm looking for a 'clunker' I think. It will reside in my nephew's house; with useage a few times a year when I'm in FL.
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 09:26
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BEAR;
I'd think some pawnshop, LGS shopping should turn up some suitable specimen. I can't imagine that a used Rossi/Puma would be a high-dollar item. A Remmie pump in .35? Or, dare I mention a Handi-rifle?
900F
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 09:47
Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 14:21
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Bear I would be looking at a Marlin in .35 Rem. I have had 2 of them very nice around the farm rifle.
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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 14:45
50 yards a 35 would work just fine. I know I'll kick dirt on this, but I've never seen a 35 shoot much under a pie plate at 100.....save 1. A bud of mine had one that with his best handloads he could get 2 1/2 in. group at 100yds. Thats the one and only cartridge that I have never locally heard anything good about....... one of 2 actually. I forgot the 218 bee.
I've owned 2 of them and neither were good. I bought the second one because I figured they can't all be bad. It has quite a following and many swear by them, just locally they swear at them. I have no reason to argue that they may work for some, just none have that I've seen to speak of. I'm a lever lover and have 2 older ones that shoot under 2 with anything at 100 yards, but they are not the 35's either. My boys 30/30 is MOA with the Hornady loads. My old 32 is about 3" if I do my part.
I have seen a few 35's in bolt guns and a few single shot pistols and they shot incredible!!! Any insight into that phenomenon would be great.
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 16:04
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BEAR;
Now yer jist denying the Handi-Rifle's a true dual purpose weapon! Iff'n ya caint shoot it, ya kin alluz club it to death. It's good for that ya knows.
900F
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 18:17
I hear ya JS ,both mine were blow a deers lungs out at 100,but that all changed with the Hornady Leverlotion stuff,it brought the last one I had right into a 2" 100 yard rifle,and the whackabilty was,well hard to beat a .35 .
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 07 March 2014 at 02:00
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My experience with the 35 in Marlin lever is the same. My brother does have one that he claims shoots Leverlution very well??? Funny thing is the Marlin 336 shoots the 30-30 round very well.
Like Jsg the local deer hunters swear by them. But when we have a pre-deer opener Sight-in day for the public, most of those guys can't shoot 6" at 100 yards off a bench....so the 2= groups of the 35 lever gun isn't noticable. I also suspect those 125 yard deer kills with these folks are really 30 yards!
I've always wanted a 35 rem in a nice bolt gun, maybe an old winchester or remington.
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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 07 March 2014 at 03:56
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I would think a 336 in 30-30 wouldn't be too bad. During the last ammo shortage the local Walmart almost always had 30-30 ammo on the shelf. That might come in handy at some time.

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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 07 March 2014 at 06:40
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BEAR;
Don't you have a Savage .30-30 that would do? A model 340? If I remember correctly, it'd seem to be the perfect gun for what you're proposing.
900F
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 07 March 2014 at 08:29
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CB that sounds good. Seems I do have one of those, either lurking in the corners of my gun room or on semi-permanent load!
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 07 March 2014 at 09:38
If you can't find
the 340....I
second or third
etc a Marlin 30-
30 lever.
Glenfield
version as good
only cheaper.
Ammo found
most anyplace.
But .35Rem
harder to locate.
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2nd Amendment Supporter
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 08 March 2014 at 04:52
It's always cracked me up,the way folks always bash the two 336 cartrige's. Not anybody here,but I mean in camps during deer season and just anywhere hunters get together. I don't know why,but it seems the 30-30 guys and the .35 guys going back a forth. LOL I have both,and like them both. My old 94,in my Jeremy's hands was leathel ,moving critters or standing still,he'd clobber them. I like the .35 because of the knock down. A Remington model 7600 in .35 is a tack driver,not to many folks talk about a 7600,but you never see one of the millions sold on a used rack . The old Savage 340's was a good beater rifle as was the old Mossberg 800b.
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 08 March 2014 at 05:20
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In Pennsylvania the Rem 760 (7600) reigns as THE DEER RIFLE. Usually in 30-06. but the few 35 rem and take their share of many deer. For the last 20 years there is a very very large distributor/dealer of Remington that commissions special runs of 35 rem model 7600s. All 500 guns sell out in about 6 months. some of those are bought by guns that want to rechamber for the 358 win cartridge.
The lever guns (aka indian killers) also are very popular. More so the Marlin 336 than the legendary 94. My family group have 4 336 in 30-30, 2 336 marlins in 35 rem, and 3 pump M760s. lots of deer die annually to those guns. Now, don't get me wrong, they are no 260 rem!!
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 08 March 2014 at 05:40
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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 08 March 2014 at 12:57
Grice's huh?
I've had a few of the 336's pass through my hands over the years. Very functional guns.
I've always liked the older 94's though. I currently have 2, and they will stay in my collection til they become my kids collection. Both are older and smooth as silk to operate. One is a 1952 model and the other a 1941 model.
The .35 Rem. is a rock solid cartridge in many guns, and alot of deer and bears have been taken with the round. I just always wondered why it performed so poorly in the lever guns I've come across. The .358 however does perform.
I have also wondered why Win. never took the 95 further then it did. I'm sure with modern machinery and metallurgy, proper fit and finish, a decent butt plate, and the current crop of projectiles.....sky is the limit. I'ld love to see a Whelen, .338 mag, and a .375 H&H in a well fit and finished lever gun. Sure the price tag would reflect the craftsmanship to make it........and I'ld be a huckleberry in line to have one too. I have always felt that the old wood and hand-rubbed oiled finish felt decadent in my hands, and the balance and handling was always spot on. I doubt the .375 would buck you any worse then the .405 win does, but with a decent fitted pad and a brake,(sacrilege), it could be controllable. Of course if you could do the .375, then the .458 Lott would be the big-bore choice for all things short of Jurassic park. With a 3* comb and express sights.....thats alot of push on the shoulder for sure.
Edit: Sorry for the thread hi-jack! My mind goes astray often. 
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 09 March 2014 at 01:10
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The Browning BLR comes in 300 win mag, and I've heard of guys changing the barrel to 338. that might fit your bill.
Alos the Win model 71 in 348 gives 35 whelin/338 performance; and is a traditional Win lever gun. Feels like a grown-up model94.
Both the M71 and the Marlin 336 can be converted to 450 alaskan, basically a ballistic equal to the 458 mag.... A little pricey, but go for it.
I like my m71...more than needed for deer though.
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 09 March 2014 at 04:00
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Fella's;
I'll freely admit that the Browning BLR offers some real advantages in the lever action world. The rotary bolt locks up better & makes for a much stronger action than the model 94 Winchester for instance. But, even though you can put a much more potent cartridge in it, and I'm left handed, I'll not see one in my safe.
The damn thing's just ugly!
900F
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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 09 March 2014 at 04:21
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The nicest one I ever saw was at the rifle range. The guy had the lever cut, and a pistol grip but stock on it. It looked like a high wall winchester...really very nice.
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Posted By: samchap
Date Posted: 09 March 2014 at 06:09
Yup. What CB said about the 30-30.
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