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    Posted: 05 October 2003 at 14:04

do we need to do a roll-call?

tasunkawitko in lewistown, montana. hope to actually start casting boolits this year after hunting season, now that i have all the "stuff."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2003 at 14:19
 ron: what is taking you so long????????  start now.    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2003 at 17:28
Went out and shot some cast bullets today. Just enough to see that my rifle was on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2003 at 10:08
I'm still around. It's awful quite though. I shot some cast bullets last week but haven't this week.......YET
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2003 at 11:40

Yep, I'm here, and was playing with 277 gr. bullets in the .358 Win today.

I fear that most patrons of the BSB boards are still at the age that speed is the Holy Grail, and haven't time or desire to learn the fine art of true premium bullets, and thier proper usage.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2003 at 16:17
Alas, waksupi, you speak the truth. My cast bullets have no problem poking thru animals or paper at a casual pace, I seldom crank them to more than 1600-1800, and some don't crack 1200. Guess some of them boys hunt armor plated deer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 November 2003 at 03:46
I'm here.  Just getting back into casting after a long layoff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 November 2003 at 08:07
Originally posted by Echo23TC Echo23TC wrote:

I'm here.  Just getting back into casting after a long layoff.


What are you casting these days?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2003 at 03:56

Well, now, lemme think here...

148 gr. .357 DEWC, 158 gr. .357 SWC, 125 gr. .356 TC, 230 gr. .452 RN, 255 gr. .452 SWC, 150 gr. .308 RN.

I think that's it for the moment.  I use wheel weights from the local recycler for base material.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2003 at 05:30

 

 Stocker from another site sent me some 210 gr. for my Win. 71 348 I wanna use them cuzz I here they are exceptionally easy on the old barrel.

 So what do I need to get started??? Is there a basic setup where I buy everything? Also, anyone know of a good book on the basics of cast bullets.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2003 at 06:11

BCBoy,.... I'd reccomend the:... "Lyman cast bullet handbook", Third edition.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2003 at 18:40

BCBoy---------RollingB is right on with the book. I think it's the best one out for people new to casting and shooting cast bullets.With that said, maybe we could get Waksupi to join in.

        The book is good, but--the learning is in the doing. Let us know what you got in the way of dies, etc. What kind of gun are you shootin em in? Do you know how hard the bullets are, what do you want the gun to do (Hunting, plinking, or just outright shootin cause you like it)?  Post on here and you'll get some help----------Bronco

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 00:55
Waksupi, those iron plated deer are really getting on my nerves. Pretty soon they will come up with self-defense weapon systems!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 08:35
Hey guys. Seeing as what I do for a living gives me access to quite a few wheel weights, I must ask. How dense is that lead compared to the average factory bullet?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 12:52
Factory bullet cores are generally pretty much dead soft. The Ww's we use are harder, and can be taken up to 35 Brinnell or thereabouts, by oven tempering. But they are still softer than the jackets on the commercial bullets.
The hardness is no big deal, however. If you understand pressure, lube, fit, and bore condition, you can shoot most calibers at the same velocities as jacketed bullets.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 13:43
I must be screwin up or somethin, still have a gold colored skin on the lead, and after cooling i have like a scum on the bottom of the pot. help please
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 14:33
blkpwdernut what is your alloy? How hot is your melt? What are you fluxing with?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 17:00
LAH, my alloy is mainly ww and i usually make the lead boil while melting them down into ingots, i use beeswax for flux
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 17:41
Blkpwdernut - First off, you are doing something that is damn dangerous. You should never get lead anywhere NEAR boiling point. At that point, you are definitely putting off some serious toxic fumes, and this is one of the few ways you and anyone downwind can get serious lead poisoning while casting.

The gold color skin is tin oxidizing in the alloy, as it is the quickest of the elements to react with oxegen on the top of the melt.

I'm not sure what the scum is you mention, but suspect the culprit is, the flux is not reaching the bottom of the melt. Get yourself a DRY wood dowel or old ramrod, any old piece of wood. Use this to scrape the sides and bottom of the pot as you flux.

This will bring the trash to the top. An added benefit of the stick, is, being carbon based, it is actually flux itself, and is taking flux completely through the mix, and to the bottom. Putting a flux on top of the pot is worthless to me, as lead has a much more dense specific gravity than anything you may try and stir into it.

When you stir a mix with flux on top, you are hoping that all the metal in the pot will contact the surface where the flux is. In practice, it generally doesn't, except in a very small pot. When I melt wheel weights, I usually have about 100- 125 lbs. in my pot at a time. There is no way you could stir this and thouroghly clean it with top fluxing.

Make sure you wear glasses when using the stick. If it has any moisture in it, it could cause a pot explosion.   Even with my old dry broken ramrods, I will get some interesting spitting and sizzling from the pot at times.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 17:54
bcboy - Go to Greybeards, and scroll down to the Ask Veral section on the forums. Read the top post, and you will see where to order " Jacketed Performance with Cast Bullets". Absolutely invaluable information on shooting cast.

Any one who is going to seriously pursue the ultimate in shooting cast, needs this book! Veral has spent over 30 years researching and putting to practical use cast bullets on big game and targets. He knows his stuff. Once you learn what is in this book, you can start shooting cast for all purposes, and leave those j#$%!ted bullets behind for the amatuers. Not to mention shooting a hell of a lot cheaper.

I go through hundreds of rounds a week in rifle and pistol, and thank heavens I don't have to buy the full gas checked bullets! When I was still shooting them, I could never afford to shoot as much as I wanted. Now, I can. Another tip. Check GIBrass for surplus powder. It's a hell of a good deal, and is perfect for many cast applications. How does $5 a pound or so strike you? Comes in 8# containers generally, and if you buy six jugs, hazmat is paid, I believe.


Unfortunately, the good ol' boys in D.C. are going to make it unavailable to us soon, so it's a good idea to stock up. I've contacted my representatives about this, to try and get it changed. Take a few minutes, and put your two cents in on the subject to them. The squeeky wheel gets the grease, and this is a low level thing we could probably get back with a bit of imput from constituents.



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