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    Posted: 03 January 2010 at 13:23
Well I'm tired of driving for a day and 1/2 to hunt deer with a rifle.  I can hunt many more days, including weekend seasons at home, with a slug gun.  I've been looking at the 870 and the BPS and the Benelli Nova.  The BPS seems to fit best, although I like the price of the 870 much better.  Do you guys have any thoughts?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Irish Bird Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 January 2010 at 13:56

maybe what fits best shoots best......

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote d4570 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 January 2010 at 14:59

the 870 !!!!

 

I use my bird gun with a slug choke and shoot out to 100 . great combo. I use tru-ball slugs in 2 3/4 .

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wing master Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 January 2010 at 15:27

Mule.

I would go with the one that fits. If you go with the 870, get the Wingmaster. Alot better looking than the Express.

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I've killed some deer with the 870.  My brother has an 879 rifled with scope and got a deer with it last year.  My Nephew has the Benelli.  All seem to work.

A thought You only need one shot, the single shots are just a good a killer for deer, maybe better...............Because the scope/sights ate fixed to the barrel.  For a slug gun the barrel should be fixed to the action or a bridge/cantilever extending from the barrel with a scope rail.  I have a SS H&R hammer 20 ga break action.  With a 4x scope it shoots as good as the rifled barrel models and it only cost me $50 in a pawn shop,  I tapped it and put a Bushnell on it.  It carries light and I doubt I have $150 in it.  Kills whitetails dead and weighs probably 5#.

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I'm not sure how stable those cantilevers can be since they are unsupported where the scope actually mounts.

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Bear, That H&R is set right up for Ed Hubel's 20 ga. From Hell. RD

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I took your advice.  Tried both models on for size.  Went with the Browning.  Didn't get the plastic camo stock.  Went with wood.  The 870 had some features I didn't like - plastic stock & trigger guard, heavy trigger.  The cantilever model isn't available in wood.  The BPS fit like a glove.  Ordered a Leupold 1-4 shotgun scope.

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Congratulations on the purchase.  We'll expect a range report.

did we get the canilever model?

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Mule;

I take it you got the Browning BPS?  A bottom-shuckin' left hand friendly kinda shotgun?  Was it a 12 or a 20? 

A word of advice:  if you detail strip it, either make notes or take pictures 'cause gettin' them little trombone bars in just right again can be as much fun as you care to have in one sitting.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wing master Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2010 at 16:23

No question you will shoot it better if it fits.

Congradulations on the new deer gun. I hope I never have to hunt deer with a shotgun.

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Originally posted by Wing master Wing master wrote:

 I hope I never have to hunt deer with a shotgun. Wing master

 We do it sometimes in General rifle season just for the fun of it.

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In NY I'm required to hunt with a shotgun, no rifles.  In the county where I live, required to hunt with a shotgun, no rifles, but here I have the option to hunt  with a flintlock or a crossbow in that season.

The only thing is with a shotgun 50 yards is really the max range, so you have to adjust your hunting style and pass up the gimme 120yard rifle shots.  And the deer know it!

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Originally posted by BEAR BEAR wrote:

The only thing is with a shotgun 50 yards is really the max range, so you have to adjust your hunting style and pass up the gimme 120yard rifle shots.  And the deer know it!

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 I shoot my 870 smooth bird gun out to 100 yards with only a bead.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Irish Bird Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2010 at 06:23
there are rumors out "there" that todays shotguns with todays ammo and bbls can shoot to 100+ with accuracy......I don't use 'em for deer hunting so I can't vouch for that.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tikkabuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2010 at 08:42
 I'm late on this one,I love my BPS but then again I love my Nova,then again I love my Win.1300,ya I guess I love my Wingmasters. Out of all of them I like shooting the 1300 best,fits best.
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For our NY hunt we sighted in from a bench 6 shotguns, Autos pumps and bolts, some rifled some smooth bore.  None would group 5 shots in 10 inches at 100 yards, and that is from the bench.

I'd not shoot a 100 yards with a rifle that could only do 10 inches, so I'd not shoot a shotgun that far.

At the range, there are lots of guns with the latest rifled scope sighted shotguns, all brands.  I see a few that from a bench can shoot 3 shot into 3 inches at 50 yards.  This is from a bench and with only 3 shots.  Never saw a 100 yard group with 10 shots on the paper, shooting from a bench with sandbags.

Some of the problems are poor triggers, slow moving heavy bullets so recoil is while the bullet is still in the barrel, and heavy recoil which effect many shooters.

I've killed deer with my light weight 20 gage at 65 yards.  The shells have MORE that sufficient power, just not accurate weapons.  I'm sure there are a few hunters who can shoot 100 yard groups, but they are really far and few between. 

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