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    Posted: 27 July 2013 at 15:46
A few weeks ago, I went to Dixie Gun Works and bought a Uberti Replica of a Colt Walker. A HUGE revolver. I shot it with the beginning load of 20 Grs of FFFg black powder. It was VERY accurate at 25 yards, shooting a three inch group, but I felt that the recoil was far too light to be as legendary as I have heard that it was. The next loading I used was 30 Grs of FFFg. It actually shot higher than the light loads, just as accurate, but the power factor was lacking. Does anyone have any experience with these? PLEASE come forth and share the info. I want a load that will knock me out of a saddle if I get a horse..................Kingpin
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Just something to look at from I net search.....see 1847 Walker data below in red.......If this is fact then you are a bit light with your loads


Colt Blackpowder Pistol Loading Data


Model Caliber (Ball diameter) Minimum Charge Recommended Charge Maximum Charge
1847 Walker 
.44 (.451-.457 inch dia.)
35 grains
50 grains
55 grains
Dragoon (1st, 2nd, 3rd)
.44 (.451-.457 inch dia.)
35 grains
37 grains
40 grains
1848 Baby Dragoon
.31 (.319-.323 inch dia.)
10 grains
14 grains
15 grains
1849 Pocket
.31 (.319-.323 inch dia.)
10 grains
14 grains
15 grains
1851 Navy
.36 (.372-.378 inch dia.)
15 grains
18 grains
20 grains
1860 Army
.44 (.451-.457 inch dia.)
25 grains
25 grains
30 grains
1861 Navy
.36 (.372-.378 inch dia.)
15 grains
18 grains
20 grains
1862 Pocket Navy
.36 (.372-.378 inch dia.)
12 grains
15 grains
20 grains
1862 Pocket Police
.36 (.372-.378 inch dia.)
12 grains
15 grains
20 grains
    • The data in the above table was taken from the Colt Black Powder Instruction Manual.
    • Only FFFg BLACK POWDER may be used in these or similar percussion revolvers.
    • .36 and .44 caliber revolvers use #11 percussion caps.  (.31 caliber revolvers use #10 percussion caps.)
    • DO NOT USE SMOKELESS POWDER in any blackpowder firearm.  Use of smokeless powder in a blackpowder firearm may cause it to explode and may cause severe injury.

  Disclaimer:  The author of this page assumes ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY as to the accuracy of the data contained on it, nor for any damages or injuries caused by the use of the data.  Consult your owner's manual for instructions on how to use your pistol.  Be sure to receive professional training before using your pistol.  You are assumed to be a responsible adult.  Act like one.
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The data on http://www.uberti.com/firearms/walker.php would suggest above data could be close.
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I just ordered a .44 cal 1851 navy.  I've seen conflicting reports, some same brass framed, need less powder, some say replicas are stronger, so use same charge.  I figured, I start at 25gr and work up.
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Originally posted by RobertMT RobertMT wrote:

I just ordered a .44 cal 1851 navy.  I've seen conflicting reports, some same brass framed, need less powder, some say replicas are stronger, so use same charge.  I figured, I start at 25gr and work up.


Brass frame would be weaker than Steel frame....1851 Colt Navy original caliber is really .36....not .44....gun should have come with makers recommendations for loads ie amount of BP, maybe even what granulation, cap size and ball size....& how to load etc. 
from table above

1851 Navy
.36 (.372-.378 inch dia.)
15 grains
18 grains
20 grains
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This one I ordered, price seemed fair.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols -Revolvers%7C/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/Pietta-M odel-1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Revolver/740536.uts?de stination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26WTz_l%3DSB C%253BBRprd735152&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd735152%3Bcat104503680

I will see how it shoots with 20grs and work from there, 25gr of FFFg and #10 cap is listed as max.  I'll have to go to town and see what's in stock.
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WOW!! I guess I was a "bit" light. One thing I am not, is a researcher. Thanks to you all for the info you shared and found. Now I can't wait to burn some more charcoal......................Kingpin
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