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    Posted: 03 October 2010 at 13:35
what would you guys use for pheasant if it had to be steel shot? I am going
pheasant hunting this year at Yellowtail here in Wyoming and we have to use
steel shot. I want to use my Dad's 16 gauge so need some advice from you
guys. Thanks
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#3 fast steel !!!! By Kent

or you could roll your own...

 Good luck trying to find any thing in 16 gage steel

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GOT14U, What gun is your 16 and what is it choked?
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choke would be important but generally speaking if you want to equal #6 lead with steel go to #4 steel but that generally requires a more open choke ie IM or maybe IC type, good up to 35+yds.  A general rule of thumb for lead to steel is go UP 2 sizes of steel from the lead you are trying to duplicate. It takes bigger steel pellets to equal lead pellets wt on pellet to pellet basis cuz the steel is much lighter wt than lead of same size..

  Make sure your 16ga can handle steel shot first.....if it is an older/vintage model w F/C then I'd maybe not use steel at all.  There is some steel shot out there that claims to be safe in older/vintage guns. Check the i-net to find it.
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It doesn't have a choke. I am not sure if or what a sweat 16 is stock either.
And from what I can tell there is no way to choke it. Do you guys think this
gun would be ok to shoot steel out of? I know its old I just don't know how
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Ok did a google search and it is coming up with "do not shoot steel out of it"
they do say however that its ok to shoot tungsten. I think I might just use my
12 gauge for this area and use the browning when not on the Habitat area. I
would have never known guys I appreciate it.
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Got,   did it say why NOT to shoot steel oout of your 16 ga?

remember, just cause it is said on the internet, doesn't make it true.

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GOT said..."It doesn't have a choke."

what does that mean?  How do you know there is no choke?  Did you measure the bore opening at the end of the bbl?  Or does it say on the bbl what the choke is or isn't?  Or are you referring to an attached on the outside an adjustable type choke or internal threaded choke system or????

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Bear no it didn't but I have heard that from a couple dif people. I don't really
buy it but I figured better to be safe then sorry. I'm sure you could in-lighted
me if it's BS or has some truth to it.


Irish that statement of mine really shows what I know about shotguns. I
didn't know till after that post that they can come with a factory choke. I
thought all chokes were screwed in....Like I said I just bought my first
shotgun about a year ago...I guess browning Sweet 16 are marked with
asterisk and different things to let the owner know what type of choke it is.
Now I know and that probably sounded pretty dumb to you guys...lol...oh
well I'm learnin is all I can say
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ok just what I found out is my sweet 16 has a open choke. It has *** on the
left side of the barrel close to the stock. Got a question can any of you tell
me more about my gun if I was to put the serial number up? But thanks for
the questions also you guys got me to look more into the gun and find more
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GOT14U, A sweet 16 is a very nice gun. More than likely with an open choke it may have been bought for skeet shooting. I certainly wouldn't put steel through it. Just a personal thing I guess. I've no grounds to say it's good or bad. Some of the other non tox loads might be all right but a lot of these can be loaded fairly heavy too. Whether that would be hard on the action? Again,  I don't know but I wouldn't. I'd use it with some medium weight field loads where you can use lead and let it go at that. Some folks think they ought to load a sixteen with 1 1/8 oz loads and make a 12 out of it. Why not just use a 12? A 16 was known as a gentlemens gun in its time. Using 1 oz or even 7/8 oz loads was the norm. Like many things in life, great when used as designed, mediocre when pushed where it wasn't intended to go. JMO  Rockydog

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Thanks for all the tips guys !!!!!
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You don't like steel?? They this .

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=417635&a mp;cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Ammunition%20-%20Shotgun%20-%20Upland-_- PriceCompListing-_-417635

bismuth soft like lead and heaver than steel but $$$ They will not bother your gun...

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