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    Posted: 13 October 2006 at 15:00
i'm sure you've all heard of these disgusting animals at the westboro baptist church. i won't dignify them by spreading their hate-filled message here; you can google them if you want to. all i will say is that their rhetoric is repulsive to any decent human being, whether you are pro- or anti-bush, america or war in iraq.

to give an example, one of their mottos is "thank god for IEDs," and their big claim is that "God is killing American troops in strange lands for fag sins." they make even fundamentalists (christian, muslim or otherwise) look sane and peaceful. they are proof that the destruction of this country can come from the right just as easily as from the left.

evidently, these false christians plan to travel to li'l ol' chinook, montana, to picket the funeral of the young marine killed in iraq last week and to try to get attention and spread their venom. as a friend of the family of this young man who was killed, but also as someone who thinks that this is a terrible violation, my blood is boiling at the thought of their desecration.

along with denying them any of the attention that they are so desperate to get, are there any effective, LEGAL ways of dealing with these assholes? i realize that, unfortunately, shooting them is out of the question. what can be done to lessen their negative impact on an already tragic situation, and is it possible to keep them at least at arm's length, if not entirely away from this funeral?

and don't start on me about their constitutional rights and advocating a police state. these nutcases are far, far beyond those who are against the war. they don't give a damn about the war. what they want is dead soldiers. read up on them. they are not AGAINST the war, they are FOR American blood and death. the anti-bush, anti war crowd would never think of such disgusting rhetoric such as this.

i recognize their right to say whatever they want, to assemble, etc; however, the friends, family and community of this young Marine also have the right to mourn and pay respect to his sacrifice in relative privacy. not only is there some decency involved here, but there is the mother of a US Marine who was killed defending the lives and freedom of those who could not defend themselves. should she be subjected to this? i can't imagine that anyone would say that she should.

any suggestions would be welcome.
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Ron, sent you an email, but there is something wrong with my email right now. This should probably be posted here anyway. Here is the email I sent you:

Ron,

Check out this website, http://patriotguard.org/  They were here in Jamestown for the funeral of one of our hero's, they are awesome. They will form a human barrier between the family and these assholes so that they cannot be seen.

Not sure who the contact is in Montana, but send an email to bear@patriotguard.org he will be able to get the right people lined up. The family has to request that they come to the funeral. There is no cost. I was so impressed with them that I joined.

Take care and please give my condolences to the family.


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Hope this helps!


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Rob

at your suggestion, i've contacted bear and await his reply. thanks for the info and i will keep all updated.

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Forgot to mention, they way that they do things it is impossible to keep them away. They will gather on public property and there is no way to stop them. In fact, they are hopeing that something does happen. That is the way that they get money. They hope that someone attacks them and then they will sue your city and police department for not protecting their civil rights. Sicking how they can twist our laws to meet their own demented ends.

The Patriot Guard will stand in front of them with US flags effectively screening their hatefull signs from view.

When they came here we roped off an area across the street from the church for them. After they were set up the guard came in and set up between them and the church.

Just keep in mind that the family will have to request the guard to be there.


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Fella's;

It's my understanding that they attempted to make their presence known at the funeral of Senator Baucus's nephew here in Montana.  That young man died in our nation's service in the middle east. They were prevented from doing so. 

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Ron, My BIL and SIL are both very left leaning but good hearted people. Both are anti-war, anti-Bush but non the less support our troops. They both recently rode their Harleys a couple of hundred miles to participate in the patriot guard for one of the funerals in Illinois. They were sickened at the behavior of the WBC nut cases. The Patriot Guard was very effective in keeping the family shielded. RD 

 

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to all -

following Huntin1's suggestion, i contacted the Patriot Guard. these guys are outSTANDing and were already on the case and are taking action. i can't thank them enough.

anyone interested can show their support of this group by going to www.patriotguard.org.

This is not a left/right, conservative/liberal, bush/anti-bush/ war/anti-war issue. this is about respect, dignity and honor. If this issue comes up in any town of yours, these guys walk the talk, and deserve high praise.

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to all - i made several copies of the disgusting FAX that was sent to the young Marine's mother and made sure that everyone in our town knew what was going on. as added insurance, i made sure that a few of the town's biggest mouths knew about it as well (any of you from a small town know what i mean). now that the word has gotten out around town,  and we've got a plan. with hope, this family will be able to grieve in peace and with dignity.

as a friend of the family, i am confident that i've done what i can do to help this along, and will be there on the day of the funeral to stand with the rest of our town in showing these outsiders that their hate isn't welcome here. as a member of the so-called "media," these nuts will not get a single word of attention from me. as someone who believes that we can never do enough to honor the sacrifices of our troops (and their families), i can only hope that i've done everything i can do, yet know that it will never be enough.

thank GOD that there are people out there who choose to defend freedom, even if it is the freedom of people in a far-off land who cannot defend themselves; and that there are parents out there who raise their children to love their fellow man enough to make that choice.

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to all -

talk about all hat and no cattle, these guys arepretty lame; i must confess, though, i am glad that they are. not a single one of the pukes were in town today. for the record, the patriot guard WAS here. it was quite a thing to see such support from these folks and from the community.

there were all sorts of rumors floating around, dealing with permits (and lack thereof), phone calls to the WBC stating that their safety couldn't be guaranteed due to it being hunting season, stuff like that. of course, the truth is probably much more boring.

it's been suggested that these guys usually announce intention to picket a number of towns, but only make a handful of those they announce.  They monitor the internet and the papers to see what town puts up the biggest resistance, and then just go to the one place.  Remember they only want media attention, and they drive usually in a stretch van.  So they look for vocal resistance and a town close to their Kansas homes.The more the town mobilizes the better chance that they will come.  It is easy for them to hit a Google search on their name/initials and the threatened towns.  The one with the most hits will most likely be the victim of a visit.

not as exciting as death threats, but probably most likely. either way, it doesn't matter. they didn't show up, and the family was able to mourn in peace, and the boy was given the tribute that he deserved. the funeral was easily one of the most emotional moments that will be remembered by everyone who attended.

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