What is your take on the new 7mm Backcountry?

I think it sounds very interesting.
But it may be too soon to make a good decision about it. Beer

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Diminishing returns!

You can only burn so much powder.

Seems they claim significant improvement at 600 yards plus. Not much hunting at those distances.

However, if you compare it to the 7 Rem Mag, the standard .280 magnum, if offers about 150 fps faster. If you compare it with the 7mm Rem Ultra mag then with 160 gr a few FPS slower.

And it does this at a higher pressure, does that mean more case stretch, more throat erosion, shorter case live, etc

Also it says case is special alloy. Well, it is steel!!!!! Does anyone load steel 9mm cases? aluminum cases? The navy does reload 4" dia steel but only a few times.

So does that mean problems for reloader? Remember Federal would prefer you buy loaded ammo from them.

I see it bone dead in 18 months. basically hype.

LOL got to laugh at all the on-line reviews by guys with big cowboy hats. Sounds like they are reading the script from the Remington EtronX rifle .....remember that 'revolutional' rifle cartridge?

If you can't beat the 7mm ultra mag by a lot (using brass reloadable case).

No significant improvement and plenty of negatives.

Edited by BEAR - 15 January 2025 at 12:17

“ The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.”

This is the first time I've ever heard of it.

If it's not reloadable I don't think I would be interested.

If the aftermarket comes out with a brass case or in some way makes it reloadable I would take a look at it.

I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

Is it based off of another cartridge?

I don't know anything about it.

I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

Thanks D.

That's interesting. It is something I would be interested in.

I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

A 7MM PRC with a 26" barrel VS a 7MMBC with a 20" are the same speed with the same bullet. The BC it intended to be a short barrel with a suppresser. They claim you can reload them with standard dies.

Less powder than a 7MM RM, with less barrel erosion. Supposedly can be shot with a normal action. I don't know but if it's most of what they claim it should be an alternative to the LONG High power barrel burners. We will see.

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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: What is your take on the new 7mm Backcountry? Posted: 15 January 2025 at 04:21
	I think it sounds very interesting. But it may be too soon to make a good decision about it.
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MapleHill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 01 January 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 796	Post Options Post Reply Quote MapleHill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2025 at 09:28
	I pay no attention to anything new at first. Marketing, marketing, marketing. Whatever hype it takes to sell guns and ammo. Is this the one with steel cases??

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2025 at 12:15
	Diminishing returns! You can only burn so much powder. Seems they claim significant improvement at 600 yards plus. Not much hunting at those distances. However, if you compare it to the 7 Rem Mag, the standard .280 magnum, if offers about 150 fps faster. If you compare it with the 7mm Rem Ultra mag then with 160 gr a few FPS slower. And it does this at a higher pressure, does that mean more case stretch, more throat erosion, shorter case live, etc Also it says case is special alloy. Well, it is steel!!!!! Does anyone load steel 9mm cases? aluminum cases? The navy does reload 4" dia steel but only a few times. So does that mean problems for reloader? Remember Federal would prefer you buy loaded ammo from them. I see it bone dead in 18 months. basically hype. LOL got to laugh at all the on-line reviews by guys with big cowboy hats. Sounds like they are reading the script from the Remington EtronX rifle .....remember that 'revolutional' rifle cartridge? If you can't beat the 7mm ultra mag by a lot (using brass reloadable case). No significant improvement and plenty of negatives. Edited by BEAR - 15 January 2025 at 12:17
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2025 at 19:38
	Its more intended for 20". A 26" 7 PRC and a 20" Backcountry run at the same speed with the same bullets. I think some people want the short to use a suppresser. They claim its a special blend of Steele and can be reloaded.
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Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 January 2025 at 19:40
	This is the first time I've ever heard of it. If it's not reloadable I don't think I would be interested. If the aftermarket comes out with a brass case or in some way makes it reloadable I would take a look at it.
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2025 at 07:58
	Lots of people are concerned about die wear, so they clean and wipe their cases so as to not damage them. Wonder what die wear comes from using steel case. Got to be a hard resize, and more case expansion from more pressure. also wonder things like mouth tension with steel, could be difficult but critical. I worked with navvy advanced research on steel cases for 4+ inch diameter long guns, used on naval ships. Seem to remember that they had carbide dies, but you cant make carbide dies for bottleneck cases. Just thoughts. None of the 'new' stuff seems to be to lower cost of shooting, just increasing costs.
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Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2025 at 15:10
	Is it based off of another cartridge? I don't know anything about it.
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2025 at 18:11
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Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2025 at 20:54
	Thanks D. That's interesting. It is something I would be interested in.
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2025 at 14:31
	Watch what velocity they cite. some say 3000 in a 20 inch barrel. Other seem to give higher velocity, but close watch shows 24 inch barrels. The 7 Rem mag does that with a 24 inch barrel, and if you load it a little hoter does much better. So think of it as an expensive round to get 20" barrel. which might mean something with can shooters, but little to hunters. and the small increase in velocityonly means significance at or beyond 600 yards. This seems to be heavily promoted by commercial guys that got a FREE hunt from Hornady, and bun men LOL
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2025 at 18:09
	A 7MM PRC with a 26" barrel VS a 7MMBC with a 20" are the same speed with the same bullet. The BC it intended to be a short barrel with a suppresser. They claim you can reload them with standard dies. Less powder than a 7MM RM, with less barrel erosion. Supposedly can be shot with a normal action. I don't know but if it's most of what they claim it should be an alternative to the LONG High power barrel burners. We will see.
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2025 at 07:00
	I'm sticking with my 275 Rigby and 7mm Rem Mag. I have better options in my gun vault for elk, moose and griz. So 7mm to me is deer and antelope. This year Missed an antelope (first time) with my 6.5-08, standing at 160 yards. so time to get another rifle up! must be the rifle, it couldn't be me!
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2025 at 09:17

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