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    Posted: 02 December 2005 at 14:55
Anoka, MN – December 2, 2005 – The new .338 Federal is a cartridge that provides the energy of a 7mm Rem Mag in a necked-up .308 case. It’s the ultimate big game caliber designed with reasonable recoil for today’s lightweight rifles. It exhibits great performance on a variety of large game and is the first ever rifle cartridge to earn the right to bear the Federal name on its headstamp.

Federal Cartridge Company pioneered the Premium ammunition category in 1977. With decades of successful manufacturing, forward-thinking and outstanding quality, only one thing was missing—Federal’s own cartridge.

This void is now filled with a unique combination of two time-tested designs—the .338 bullet atop the versatile .308 cartridge case. It’s a combination that’s been made a legitimate cartridge by the development efforts of the engineering and ballistics staff at Federal in collaboration with Sako rifles. A larger diameter bullet in the shorter-action .308 case generates approximately 200 feet per second more velocity than a standard .308 with a 30-caliber bullet (when comparable bullet weights are considered).

The .338 Federal delivers the only modern .338-caliber load that isn’t a magnum configuration. It gives big game hunters a larger diameter bullet for more weight and overall energy on target—without magnum recoil.

According to Federal President Mark DeYoung, "This product breaks new ground for Federal and compliments our emphasis on product innovation. The .338 Federal captures the capability of the longstanding .308 case, and offers the respected performance of the .338 bullet, a favorite of big game hunters. These two mainstays have been proven time and again and are now brought together into a quality factory load. This cartridge also offers an advanced option in support of the current trend for lighter rifles. The .338 Federal offers hunters more muzzle energy than a 30-06 Springfield—equaling that of a 7mm Rem Mag. It’s a non-magnum offering that boasts magnum energy. The round delivers devastating performance on game, including deer, bear and elk and we’re proud to put our name on it."

Three Premium load offerings will be available in the fall of 2006:
P338FA1: 180-grain Nosler AccuBond 2830 fps
P338FB: 210-grain Nosler Partition 2630 fps
P338FC: 185-grain Barnes Triple-Shock 2750 fps

Product will be available in spring of 2006. Keep an eye on the Federal and Sako websites for more ballistic information and availability updates.

About Federal Cartridge Company
Headquartered in Anoka, Minnesota, Federal Cartridge Company has been providing hunters and shooters with high-quality rimfire, centerfire and shotshell ammunition since 1922 and is part of ATK’s Ammunition Group. For more information on Federal, visit www.federalpremium.com.

Seems like a very interesting cartridge.


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wow... i'll wait for some actual ballistics to come out, but this one appears to rate a 'definite skip' on the ol' buyit-skipit scale.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tikkabuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2005 at 15:30
 Sounds like a high dollar deal to me,in a Sako and all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2005 at 16:07
 That cartridge is about 100 times more interesting (to me) than the recent barrage of short and fat or ulta whamy boom booms. Those numbers are right on the heels of the 338-06 and in real world, non internet gun guru terms, just as lethal in most cases as the 338 win mag. Of course like anything else it's been done already but if it leads to commercial brass I bet it finds a larger niche.
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...almost a 338-06 which is almost a 338 win mag... nah, still doesn't interest me - though an ambitious handloader should be able to do wonderful things w/ the time-tested and proven 308 case and the high bc's of the 338 bullets.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2005 at 18:19
 And for the 338mag fans a 338win mag is almost a 340wby which is almost a 338-378wby which is almost a 338-416.............so why do you all sing the praises of a  338 win mag when it's only a almost?
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I'll just stick with my favorite cartridge.....
The 280 is based on a 1930's wildcat called the .285 O.K.H. by Elmer Keith.  Remigton first introduced the 280 in the model 740 autoloader in the 50's.  The 280 is consideraly better than the 30-06 for deer and pronghorn.  However this caliber is doomed.  It's major blow was the introduction of the 7mm Remington magnum.  This gun can deliver about 200-300 fps faster accross the board.  The 280 was Remington big shot to take the market away from the 270 Winchester or 30-06.  Although the 280 is better then both of them it just never caught on.  

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Originally posted by Rob1 Rob1 wrote:

 That cartridge is about 100 times more interesting (to me) than the recent barrage of short and fat or ulta whamy boom booms. Those numbers are right on the heels of the 338-06 and in real world, non internet gun guru terms, just as lethal in most cases as the 338 win mag. .....

Me Too!- Got my interest!

First I've heard of this development.  Think it will be much more effective than the 358 Winchester.

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Wish they would put a 250 grain round nose bullet in it when it come out - Would be an easy carry HOG THUMPER!! Also hope the rifles have a twist to stabilize a 250!

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I don't know if it will survive. Except for the .243, nothing much based on the .308 case has appealed tp the masses. The .358 is dead, except for a few fans. The 7/08, while used by a lot of serious hunters, doesn't exactly set the world on fire with its sales numbers. And the .260 was almost dead when it hit the shelves. All three are good cartridges, but were never accepted  by most shooters and hunters.

.338 on a .308? I'll wait and see.

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Well, I'd rather see a 358 re-introduced.  But the 338-08 has been around for a number of years and appears to be a pretty good cartridge.

It is a close duplicate of the 8x57 but fits the short action that "everyone thinks is so important.  I'd never sell any of my present gun cabinet occupants for the 338-08.  But a Kimber 84M could easily slide into a small open spot in the rack.

"And the .260 was almost dead when it hit the shelves."  True, the gun shops killed them because they could easily talk the new gun buyer into a 7-08; and then not have to stock two different rifles.  Shame, as the 260 (aka 6.5-08) is an outstanding cartridge.  The same gun shop babble will have to defeat the 338-08 by comparing it to the 325 WSM.  They should be able to convince most newbies that the 338-08 is not worth stocking.

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 The newbies will avoid it for sure, doesn't contain the word "magnum" or "super" or "ultra" anywhere, just a boring .338 Federal. Bad marketing on this one and new gun sales are all about marketing to the people who really take the marketing hype into consideration when making a purchase.
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You are probably correct in your prediction on this one Rob.  I've been trying to think of any Federal invented cartridge that ever sold well????????????

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 I've been trying to think of any Federal invented cartridge that ever sold well????????????

Come on, there are LOTS of cartridges Federal produced or helped develop. Among them are the:

.32 H&R Magnum. Big success! One of my favorite revolver cartridges. Currently, I think that me and probably two other guys in the continental US shoot it.

7/30 Waters. Another hit! I've seen one rifle chambered in 7/30. Never seen any amunition on any dealer's shelf!

Well, at last they didn't develop the .41 Action Express...

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Did federal work on the 357 Maximum????????????

Another popular number in my neck of the woods.Big smile

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I find it a very interesting cartridge. Only problem is that it has zero advantages over the .30-06 I have now, except I can't load up 210 grain partitions, only 200's .
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Next thing you know they'll make another wild cat on the .35.  They'll probably call it the .358 Winchester too.
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35-08 maybe!  If it is Remington, they will call it the 9mm-08.LOL

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this one could work boys, considering the short action craze. you're looking at whole family: .22 cheetah, .243 win, .25 souper, .260 rem, 7mm-08, .308 win, .338-08, .358 win.

betcha federal is tied to a bolt gun manufacturer (looks like sako right now. how 'bout savage?). look for a short, light, do just about everything series. maybe with switch barrels? (again, savage?)

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I put it on the "here today, gone tomorrow", list.
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