flat-nosed boattails for .30-30

I dont think anyone makes them, but i am not sure. I guess having the boattail might improve tradjectory, but i am not sure. I will go look it up right now.

NH_Hunter

some guy on the marlin board said that federal put them in their factory loads. if this is true, it's the first i've heard of it. if they did, they must have gotten them from somewhere...

if i find them, i'll let you know where...

waksupi -

one of the main reasons that i wanted them was because i find it easier to seat bullets straighter with boattails. i use a lee loader, and when i am seating bullets, i find that the boattails just fro right in, allowing me to seat the bullet in a way that ensures a straight result. 

i also must admit that i was interested in the boattail's ability to reduce wind drag. even with a flat point, every advantage helps. my idea on this (and i could easily be wrong) is that it is all relative. if a boat tail helps a .30-cal spitzer under certain conditions, then it is also going to help a flat-nose under similar conditions, regardless of the nose design. it might not help as much or for the same duration in flight, but it must help. any advantage that i can get is worth it, in my opinion.

perhaps the last reason i seek them is because i can think of no reason NOT to have them!

The terms flat nose or round nose and boat tail bases has always seemed like a counterdiction in bullet characteristics.  That said, I can't imagine why I wouldn't give them a try in the .307 if they're out there.  Wouldn't be a bad controlled test to run.  Flat and boattail bases side by side and see if there are any benefits or disadvantages at .307 ranges.  >>  klallen

Nosler does make a boat tail of sorts. If you look at a true boat tail you'll see that Nosler doesn't make a boat tail bullet at all, unless its in their match grade bullets. The bevel base bullets they do make do in fact make it very easy to seat when reloading.

Dan

Tas,

   You may want to try champerin with a different tool.  Some tools use a steeper slope (cut further in) and make loading flat based bullets easier.  The reason why there ain't no short stocky flat, or round nose bullets with boattails is cause mostly they don't perform as well as flat based bullet.  This is true for most short and stubbies according to some pretty impressive bench shooters.  Of course they only use shorter bullets fer shorter range (under 200).

Spot

I called a techy I know at Nosler today, about the boat tail bullets they make, With tongue in cheek, I was told they consider all the bullets they make with a beveled base a boat tail, although the match bullets do have a more pronounced boat tail shape. So thats that

Dan

"Nosler does make a boat tail of sorts. If you look at a true boat tail you'll see that Nosler doesn't make a boat tail bullet at all, unless its in their match grade bullets. The bevel base bullets they do make do in fact make it very easy to seat when reloading."

Dan

Bojon, there really isnt anything that you can do to the .30-30 to expand it. A very hot handload maximum velocity is right around 2450 FPS. It is just too old to be improved upon, no matter what new stuff you through at it. As far as i know, you wont improve anything by using modern high-tech bullets in it because the velocities are just too low. It is a very good deer killer in the east, and it would do fine out west as long as you keep the range under 150 yards and make sure you have a good aim.

NH_Hunter