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Spot shooter
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Topic: Where does "mule skinner" stand fer? Posted: 26 July 2003 at 01:56 |
I've been wanderin, where the term "mule skinner" comes from for about a year now and still don't know. Theres a muleskinner.com site, you here it every once and a while on a old western, and of course we have our own muleskinner here.
So what gives, what's it mean, and where does it come from?
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 26 July 2003 at 07:51 |
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Mule Skinner Blues
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Good morning captain good morning son Do you need another mule skinner Out on your new road line
Well I like to work I'm rolling all the time I can pop my initials Right on a mule's behind
Well hey little water boy bring your water 'round And if you don't like your job just set that water bucket down
Lord I work out on the new road I make a dollar and a dime a day I've got three women on Saturday night Waiting to draw my pay
Well I'm going to town honey what can I bring you back Just bring a pint of good rye And a John B.Stetson hat
Lord it's raining here and it's storming on the deep blue sea Can't no blonde headed woman make a monkey out for me
If your house catches fire and there ain't no water 'round Just throw your good gal out the window let your house just burn on down
Well I'm leaving here and I ain't gonna take no clothes There may be good times in this old town but it's better on down the road |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana  Helfen, Wehren, Heilen Die Wahrheit wird euch frei machen
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saddlesore
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Posted: 26 July 2003 at 10:14 |
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Muleskiner was the driver or teamster of freight wagons or? pulled by mules. The swamper was the helper, and sometimes rode on the lead left mule, and sometimes was the brakeman. On the 6 up hitch you had the lead team the swing and then the wheelers. Right before the turn of the century there were actually more mules in the US than horse. The horses and oxen couldn't hack the long dry runs across the great basin, and sometimes the prarie. The number of mules died off because the wild horse bred naturally and the mules had to be bred. In addition the need for teams for field work and freight business died off with the coming of the tractor and locmotive.
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Saddlesore
If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
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maxpressure
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Posted: 26 July 2003 at 14:28 |
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He doesn't seem to stand still for very much of anything. max
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maxpressure
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Posted: 26 July 2003 at 14:31 |
It is a term used to describe the job of one of the kitchen crew in a Chinese resturaunt. max
And you all thought he was a quide. humph!
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NH_Hunter
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Posted: 26 July 2003 at 14:43 |
LOL MaxPressure 
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Muleskinner
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Posted: 28 July 2003 at 07:38 |
Muleskinners brought all the goods into the rockies an' alaska fer years, not jus' by wagon, but with pack trains too. The army used pack trains where wagons couldn't go. Any expedition into the wilderness had a lead muleskinner, called the pack master, a guide, and various camp jacks that were also part time skinners.
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SelwayPacker
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Posted: 28 July 2003 at 08:14 |
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Only the very best muleskinners was promoted to SelwayPackers.
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saddlesore
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Posted: 29 July 2003 at 08:26 |
The others came to Colorado and became Outfitters.
Down at Ft Carson, which is about 10 mile south of Colorado Springs, they had the last mule from the old pack strings. He was over 50 yrs old ( I think 56 ) when he finally died. They have a picnic area down around the old stables at Turkey Creek. The old mule just wandered around, but learned to beg for beer. If he would see anybody witha dixie cup , he would pester them until they gave it to him. He could grip it between his bottom lip and teeth, up turn it, and chug-a-lug the cup in one gulp.
I worked with a fellow down in NM that was in WWII and was a mule skinner. He was a cook, and since they weren't busy all the time, he also was assigned to the packers. They would give him a green untrained, essentially wild mule and he was suppose to get it trained and use it. He had alot of great hair raising stories.
The sad part about all the mules in the Burma campaign is that they couldn't bring any of them back and most were shot. ( same as the dogs in the canine units during Vietnam)The rest became the property of the locals where they were worked to death in short order.
The term "shave tail" in the military came from the custom of clipping the mules tail down real short, as they do new recriuts. As the mule was trained, they would clip the tail into bell formations. If one had three bells and they were trained to ride, pack and work in harness.
Funny thing here, they shaved Demi Moore's head for GI-Jane, but I never saw Rambo's head shaved.
And all this you may copy and write down in your book of "so what who cares".
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Saddlesore
If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
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Spot shooter
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Posted: 29 July 2003 at 11:13 |
Nope, that's good info thet ain't easy to get, those thet don't care about it's to cain't appreciate the world they got. Sad cause it was paid fer with blood, not computer key strokes, and high wheelin ideals of politicians.
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SelwayPacker
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Posted: 29 July 2003 at 12:14 |
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That's why I prefer horses to mules. Them drunk mules will sing all night long. And it ain't purdy. You just cain't get no sleep.
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Spot shooter
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Posted: 29 July 2003 at 15:13 |
Selway,
Sounds good to me, I cain't drink beer but you put some whiskey in me and you'd better keep an eye on me. Get good and awake, want to go out an do somethin. Boy are there stories to tell on that, one ends with me throwin a cat in the first sergents tent at 2 in the morning, and poppin the strings to drop the tent. Woke up later thet morning 6ish I think, in some young gal's tent with a bite mark on my foot. Didn't even ask what happened, she seemed Ok with me sleepin there, just bid her a good morning and left. Still don't know where that bite mark come from. I bit my own foot to see if was me, didn't match - radius was smaller - Hopin it was a gal, guess I'll never know. I'm too embarressed to tell the rest.
Disclaimer - this happened when I was a young buck, these days I'm much quiter when I drink.
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