Ouch! That hurts

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   Dang! I thought the auto part of an auto loader helped with recoil...My new Stoeger will kick your BUTT.
I don't have the steady stock yet and just have the factory stock and recoil pad, and have not put in the recoil reducer that come with the gun. It is just a steel weight that goes in the stock.
I'm shooting the same loads I do in the 870. The reason I put a pistol grip and limbsaver on the 870 was the recoil. You just can't shoot the big goose loads 3" or 3 1/2" all day long, with out it.
I have not weighed the Stoeger but lifting each it does feel lighter a little. I'm not ordering a limb saver yet till I get the other stock as to get the right one. I want to see if I can make the stock a little shorter too, that may make a difference in the size of the LS pad.
I'll try the "drop" shims too I think it may give a more head up feel when shouldering the gun.
I went out and tried it with a mix of shells 3 1/2, 3, 2 3/4, and 2 1/2s.
Light lead 7/8oz to 1 5/8oz coyote loads, and 1 1/4oz steel. All but the 2 1/2- 1/2oz loads cycled and fed great, even all mix in the same loading.
I got an extended ported "crematory" Carlson .690 choke tube and was shooting that. I was shooting a hunk of 11 gauge steel.
It was just a small peace like 8"x 6" but I was hitting it multiple times, 6 or 8 pellets at a time at 50 yards, and my lead F shot coyote loads mostly went all the way through, The BBB steel put a good dimple in it but would not go through. I am happy so far. When I have the stock off I'll see if I have room for a dead mule like I made for the 8mmRM. BY the way the Stoeger kicks WAY harder then the 8 mag did before the Mule. 

Edited by d4570 - 18 September 2020 at 07:46

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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Ouch! That hurts Posted: 18 September 2020 at 07:37
	Dang! I thought the auto part of an auto loader helped with recoil... My new Stoeger will kick your BUTT. I don't have the steady stock yet and just have the factory stock and recoil pad, and have not put in the recoil reducer that come with the gun. It is just a steel weight that goes in the stock. I'm shooting the same loads I do in the 870. The reason I put a pistol grip and limbsaver on the 870 was the recoil. You just can't shoot the big goose loads 3" or 3 1/2" all day long, with out it. I have not weighed the Stoeger but lifting each it does feel lighter a little. I'm not ordering a limb saver yet till I get the other stock as to get the right one. I want to see if I can make the stock a little shorter too, that may make a difference in the size of the LS pad. I'll try the "drop" shims too I think it may give a more head up feel when shouldering the gun. I went out and tried it with a mix of shells 3 1/2, 3, 2 3/4, and 2 1/2s. Light lead 7/8oz to 1 5/8oz coyote loads, and 1 1/4oz steel. All but the 2 1/2- 1/2oz loads cycled and fed great, even all mix in the same loading. I got an extended ported "crematory" Carlson .690 choke tube and was shooting that. I was shooting a hunk of 11 gauge steel. It was just a small peace like 8"x 6" but I was hitting it multiple times, 6 or 8 pellets at a time at 50 yards, and my lead F shot coyote loads mostly went all the way through, The BBB steel put a good dimple in it but would not go through. I am happy so far. When I have the stock off I'll see if I have room for a dead mule like I made for the 8mmRM. BY the way the Stoeger kicks WAY harder then the 8 mag did before the Mule. Edited by d4570 - 18 September 2020 at 07:46
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 September 2020 at 09:08
	I agree....OUCH. My 10 ga is a heavy double barrel with 32" tubes. My home made turkey loads are 3.50" #4 Plated lead 2.25 oz. with the recoil pad and a good grip it isn't bad...weight?
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MapleHill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 01 January 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 796	Post Options Post Reply Quote MapleHill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 September 2020 at 10:02
	3.5" 12ga loads are the biggest a$$ kicker out there!

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 September 2020 at 10:22
	Home rolled just make it worse, or better depending on what you want...
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 September 2020 at 07:44
	I understand that plastic stocks also make kick worse. Seems wood 'absorbs' some of the kick (compression), whereas the plastic just passes it along to your shoulder. Makes sense. Also wood is heaiver, more weight so less kick. just thoughts.
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 September 2020 at 08:34
	The new stock should be here on Monday. The same one Scheels had a 120 day back order on, but that is another story... When I can have a hands on look in side and see what's in there for room I can make a better assessment of what I need to do. A limb saver is #1 They cut the felt recoil a lot they claim 20% +. I have them on all my guns except the 10,22. There is a stud that is used for there weight, recoil suppresser that maybe I can use to make a home made mule, like on the 8. The limb saver and mule on the 8 probably cut the felt recoil in half. Actually nothing "Reduces" recoil except lass payload and powder. Everything else just slows it down and make for a LONGER push back, AKA felt recoil. More weight is the fastest and easiest way to lessen it, mass at rest tends to stay at rest, but, I'm old weight is not my friend.
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