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   BSD,
Best bird dog I've had was a field champ Brit.  I was single and the shedding drove me crazy (never should have got that chocolate couch).
That white undercoat stayed in suspended in the air forever.  No amount of washing (feeding him raw eggs, etc) could control it.  Great dog, loved her......never again.  Great Nose.
Nice talking to you Big_stud.  Hope you stay around the BSB.

Does your dog like grouse????
BEAR

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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2006 at 12:24
	BSD, Best bird dog I've had was a field champ Brit. I was single and the shedding drove me crazy (never should have got that chocolate couch). That white undercoat stayed in suspended in the air forever. No amount of washing (feeding him raw eggs, etc) could control it. Great dog, loved her......never again. Great Nose. Nice talking to you Big_stud. Hope you stay around the BSB. Does your dog like grouse???? BEAR

big_stud_duck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 25 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote big_stud_duck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2006 at 15:13
	Wouldn't know about the grouse. I live in Oklahoma-quail country. I'd love to try grouse sometime, though. She's just a year old, so we have some time. At the end of last quail season, I had her out and she bailed off in a creek bottom about 70 yards away. I heard wingbeats, and thought she had spooked some ducks. Turned out it was about 50 turkeys, flushing like a covey of quail.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2006 at 02:00
	Well, I guess your have some pheasants there also?? My brit loved to hunt. My labs could get distracted if you gave them a pet on the head after a retrieve; it took them time to get back to business (like affection). But the Brit never stopped and didn't want to leave a field at the end of the day. Born to hunt. BEAR

big_stud_duck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 25 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote big_stud_duck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2006 at 04:00
	Yeah, when we're at home, my Brit (Scout) is like a lap dog- you can't pet her enough. Put her out in quail country, though, and she's all bidness. I live in the Southeastern part of the state, so no pheasants here. All our pheasants are in the Northwest part of the state. All we did last year (her first) was puppy-style quail hunting. This year, though, I plan to get her on some pheasants. BTW, have you ever read a book called The Hunter's Road, by Jim Fergus? He spends all fall and part of the winter driving around the country with a lab, bird hunting. Grouse, pheasants, ducks, quail, whatever. Whatta life!

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2006 at 13:06
	I have read Jim fergus's books and a lot of his articles. Not many good writer (language/literature skills) in outdoor writting anymore. I use to love Gray's Sporting Journal, but they seemed to go yuppie on me and I've not subscribed in years. I use to use a lot of pigeons when training my bird dog. Evening was a time to hit the underside of interstate bridges. Climb into the superstructure and just lift them off into a dirty clothes bag tucked inside my outer coat. Lots of good training on those rock doves. BEAR

big_stud_duck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 25 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote big_stud_duck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2006 at 14:25
	I agree, Bear. They can shoot (so they say), but can't write. Also, most of them tend to take themselves way too seriously. Fergus doesn't fall victim to that trap, and I admire him for it. BTW, I just reread one of the funniest things I think I've ever seen. It was Ed Zern's method for fooling crows. It involved 25 guys, all dressed alike, with fake mustaches. Also, he recommended that they wear numbered jerseys, from 1 to 25, with two #21's, and the #17 omitted. (Roman numerals could be used for extra-wary crows.)

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2006 at 02:14
	I'll always remember that Zurn crow hunt. My all time favorite was Cory Ford...."lower Forty....". I got about 50 old magazines stashed just so that my kid might someday read that column. They also published a "Best of Cory Ford" book a few years back. Got all my friends a copy for Christmas that year. Great read. But never read "On the way to Tinkertown" by Ford. If you are older and have owned a great dog (lab) in your life.......too well written. BEAR

birddogger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 30 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote birddogger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 April 2006 at 07:15
	Hello gentlemen! I'm new here but I've never let that stop me from putting in my two cents. Currently I have an older Brit, He's lost a step or two but loves those birdies! I also have a Beagle who lives indoors, he doesn't have that Beagle smell people talk about; our vet says that a good diet is the key to that. He's headstrong on the scent and a little faster chasing the rabbit than I would like but is a sweet hearted dog with people and kids. I guess you know what the next one is my GSP is 5 months old growing like a weed and has more power than Hoover Dam. Recently lost my Yellow Lab to old age, he was all the good things that you hear about Labs and was as close to self training as any dog I've ever seen. I'ld recomend any of them; if size is not a problem and you have the time and the energy to work with them GSP's are great. Both the Labs and Brits are calmer and good family dogs. If size matters the Beagle is the hands down winner. Overall, I would have to say that for most people the Beagle is the way to go, happy at home and in the field. My beagle like alot I see here in northwestern Pa. will also hunt birds, even has a differnt bay when he's on one; but point? " he don't do no STEENKING point!"

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 April 2006 at 07:38
	Nice to see you post Birddogger. My buddies and I have a bunch of beagles (outdoors). I hunt Crawford county for bunnies a lot. Both our dogs and our guys are getting older.....sh&t. I see that Pennsylvania is starting to allow deer tracking dogs (on a leash). Another thing a beagle is great for. I really don't want to get a tracking dog, rather just practice my shooting. Seems like you got pretty lucky with your dogs, great. Nope, too old for a GSP, had one (male), TOOOOOOOOO much for me now (maybe even then). Is your GSP a male or female? makes a big difference in that breed. Great noses and they will retrieve ducks. Buddy had one called "Spinner". a male and as you can guess he got the name as he use to go crazy when he got out of the car and we were not yet into a bird field, he would spin around like a helo ready to take off. Great dog. Hello Pennsylvania (needs more of us on this board to balance out those 'pesky' central plains guys) BEAR Edited by BEAR

6Bits Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 06 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115	Post Options Post Reply Quote 6Bits Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 August 2006 at 01:15
	Hello Bear!.......Now if you want a pointing dog, clean house dog and excellent water dog companion for house or truck, I advise YOU to give those LABS a hard look see. Sllower than a German Shorthair Pointer, great in the cold weather, love to be couch potatoes too. The pointing Lab is a great Upland dog, for those who are not up to walking fast in the field prior to taking a shot. They range much closer usually. There are 2 pointing Lab breeders within an hours drive of us here. Edited by 6Bits
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2006 at 02:07
	$1.50, If only those labs didn't shed. I raised labs for year and my last dog was a black lab....couldn't find anything but love in those eyes. But she had constant gray hair "floating" in the house no matter how many times I brushed/washed her! I've seen some pointing labs and that right front leg up in the air makes them look very tempting. BEAr BEAR

Rockydog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockydog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2006 at 12:25
	Bear, I hear you on the shedding part. We've had a yellow lab for years in a house with light carpets. My wife vacuums regularly and we never thought much about his shedding. Then we got the black and the carpets start looking bad about 2 hours after you vacuum. We both commented about how much more he shed than the yellow. A couple of months ago we tore out the carpet and put in a dark hard wood floor. All of a sudden it looks like white hair snowdrifts in the corners where the air doesn't circulate. Anybody that says labs don't shed just ain't lookin'. But they are still about the best all around dog a man could ever own. RD
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2006 at 15:12
	Got to agree with the "best dog" one the planet. My FC Brittany was a super hunter, but when it came to shedding it even won over the labs. Picking two important items will limit the shedding problem: a. pick carpeting that blends with the lab fur. b. pick a wife that blends with the dog, helps if she can gut and butcher deer and clan fish. My "picks" were blue carpet with white furniture and a wife that thinks fish comes in small round cans. BEAR

Rockydog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockydog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2006 at 15:54
	Bear, The problem I have with my wife and dogs is that she wants every stray that she sees. The only thing that stops me from being dog poor is a city ordinance that limits you to two dogs over 1 year of age. BTW there are dogs that shed worse than labs. I know without a doubt that Australian shepherds leave tons of fine black "toaster wire" looking hairs on every thing, and Chow Chows leave fine long hairs that seem to collect into dust balls under the bed and at first glance appear large enough to make another dog (in fact I'm not all together sure that that's not where miniature Pomeranians come from). RD
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 August 2006 at 02:15
	Never owned a Chow Chow, probably cause I was attacked and bitten by one when I was a 7 year old. So I'll gladly take your advise on that one. I did have an Australian sheep dog, looked like a big Airedale (not shedding on those Airedales). My sheep dog didn't last long, a male must have been a hot poodle up wind. One day it bounded out of the car and started a fast walk north thru a pasture. Didn't come when I called....never seen it since (1971). Doubt it will be coming back here soon. Again, merely a woman problem. BEAR

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	am not a dog LOVER,but want one to cut down on lost game,,but want one that is easy to train,long lived,lives to work,and doesn't need to be touched or held much,,not too big or shaggy,etc.,etc.,etc....holy grail or what??,,looking for an uplander that will swim now and then for the odd waterbird
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6Bits Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 06 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115	Post Options Post Reply Quote 6Bits Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 December 2006 at 09:49
	Big Open it looks like you just described a German Shorthair Pointer of German Wirehair Pointer! YOU can take your pick, I prefer my German Shorthairs for such work.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 December 2006 at 14:07
	Labradoodle ???????????????????? Edited by BEAR

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 December 2006 at 14:50
	A Beagle is hard to beat for tracking wounded game, 6bits is right on with the shorthair suggestion, mine would point, retrieve ducks and chase hell out a deer if he jumped one, bet he weighed twenty pounds extra from getting shot in the butt for that. Rick

OK hunter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 20 March 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote OK hunter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2007 at 15:45
	I'm on my 4th GSP and will most likely always have one. This one is my first female and she's a sweetie. She loves to come inside and lay on the floor by my chair. But they are completely different in the field when a shotgun gets unsheathed. Good nose, easily trained, eager to please & no shedding. What's not to like about that?