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AggieDog
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Topic: Camp FoodPosted: 25 November 2004 at 05:03 |
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I'm curious what kind of food, menu alot of you eat while in deer camp. To date, the last 15 years or so, we use a wall tent and attached Cook shack, pickup camp, at end s of roads, landing pads, etc. I argue we eat too good, sure the menu is nice, but for a 5-7 day hunt, it also is alot of work. We always have bacon, or sausage and eggs, sometimes toast, and sometimes pancakes, for breakfast. We take snacks out hunting with us, apples, candy bars, trail mix, etc. Our dinner menu is complicated, sure we eat good, but here goes: One or two nights of steaks, fried chicken, pork chops, corned beef and cabbage, spagetti. With it, we will have salad, baked potatoes, or mashed, usually baked, it s easier, can of veggies, like corn, peas, etc.
We use the 3 burner cast iron propane stove, two of them linked together, and we have a box non calapseable oven we sit on one burner to keep things re heated, like bacon in the morning, or we bake potatoes in it. Maybe because I am the main cook, it seems like alot of work to me. It takes forever to setup camp, and take it down. Wouldnt it be easier to make stews, soups, beans (we usually bring ranch beens homemade, in packets, and have that with dinner at least two, maybe three nights.) and such for dinner, leave one of the stoves. It just all seems like overkill to me, and I am trying to figure out how to have a comfortable camp, yet not have to work yourself to death over setting up camp, or taking it down. I'd like your thoughts.... |
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 25 November 2004 at 05:12 |
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aggie - long time no see! good to see you here.
this might sound a little ridiculous, but 99% of the way i camp comes straight out of the boy scout handbook i had when i was a kid. it instructs cooking a good-sized hot breakfast, a light, cold lunch, and a big hot supper done in all the best camping tradition. the book goes on to list a pretty good menu variety. nearly all of the time, i prefer to cook over a fire. when that isn't possible, i use a coleman-type stove which uses propane cylinders rather than the old fuel/pump type. the only reason is that i never really figured those things out....
i persoanlly am not into all of the freeze-fried and dehydrated meals. i do enjoy MREs that i get from the army/navy surplus, but that's about it. for the most part, i just stick to the BSA book. it was good enough for some of my best memories as a kid, and it's good enough for me now.
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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AggieDog
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Posted: 25 November 2004 at 05:32 |
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Maybe what is bugging me is we take so much stuff, but I tend to be the one who has to deal with most of it. Ultimately, I am looking for a good camp for a 5-7 day hunt. I am considering the Alaknak II tent, or a herder tent, one stove, less flamboyant meals, alittle more roughing it I guess. I am more interested in hunting than working myself to death in camp. I dont use horses, so the Alaknak 12 by 12 for 2-4 guys might work. I also have a Cabella's outback lodge tent 12 x 12 that I could use for sleeping quarters on an early hunt with low snow probability. Again, I am trying to figure out a good camp, that wont work me to death, but I can be comfortable enough in.
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saddlesore
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Posted: 25 November 2004 at 10:15 |
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It's best to not change your diet too much from what you eat at home. Less stomach and diaharra problems. There isn't anything wrong with eating good in camp. It's the next best thing to sleeping good
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Spot shooter
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Posted: 25 November 2004 at 10:53 |
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Saddlesore it right on the eat what you do at home. I tried some new stuff that didn't sit right for one morning. Luckily enough I didn't cause any problems but I didn't eat as much as I should that day and beleive you me, you need to eat good. Wiser words haven't been spoke. Spot |
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ranger1
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 03:28 |
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Tas - You like MRE's!!!
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 03:39 |
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ranger -
i am afraid so, but you gotta remember, for me they are a special treat that i only get now and then, not something that i had to eat with no alternative for weeks on end! those circumstances might change my outlook on the issue!
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TasunkaWitko
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d2redneck
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 13:59 |
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i just take out to eat what I have at the house it's ususally cheaper that way and plus we clear out our fridge a little lol.
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hunting or wife hunting or wife. Honey I'm getting the dogs be back later.
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SteelyEyes
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Posted: 03 December 2004 at 14:13 |
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We eat oatmeal for breakfast. It's cheap, fast, filling, and easy to clean up after. We take energy bars, trail mix, and jerky in our packs. Dinners are big but generally relatively simple. Some kind of meat, some veggies, and either potatoes (instant mashed are easy) or rice (minute rice spares fuel and time). Veggies are usually canned because we pack in on horses.
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Widux
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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 01:07 |
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AhYes Camp Food- well if we fly in on an Otter it's steaks ,roasts etc all prepped at home and frozen as we have a freezer in Moose camp and gen set-eggs, bacon, sausage, biscuits & gravey for bkfst- sand soup cheese crackers etc for lunch. with horses -it depends upon how many pack beasts- if none then rations are skimpy for us and horses-freeze dry crap- noodles- oatmeal- tea- hot choc- trail mix-granola bars etc Moosin on river with boat- it's food galore again ditto beer etc just don't have a freezer. then if sheephunting it's back to crapola( granola0 etc as we have to carry all on back for 10 days or so. and that's how it goes- the type of hunt and terrain determines the table fare- would be nice to eat like home as suggested above but impossible on any type of wilderness hunt esp a back packer.without of course some cushy guide service to service you and your camp. |
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soggyshooter
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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 15:32 |
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Breakfast is hot coffee, Quaker Instant Oatmeal, some kind of fruit. In the pack Some kind of food bar like Cliff's or Bakers Breakfast Cookie, Dried fruit, hard candy (I like Werthers carmels and cream's) jerkie and "Chuy's tacos" These little gems take the place of sandwiches and don't mind being smashed and miss-handled. Make sure you use flour tortillas. smear a thin layer of refried beans on half, put on some taco meat and grated cheese, fold over and flaten. The taco will be about 1/3" thick. layer 4 or 5 in a papertowel lined piece of foil and wrap them up. For dinner it could be steaks, spaghetti, stew the list is long.
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Widux
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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 22:14 |
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As long as you are looking for poor eats here's some- when running long distance dog sled races in the early 80's we used frozen pizza-hot dogs(Didn't want to confuse mine with dogs)-boxed juice(ate them frozen) etc and some other pre made frozen stuff- well in am put them into pockets on vest and later when defrosted eat- cold not good but got us through- some times we got to throw some stuff into hot water for heating like oatmeal or dry noodle packages
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SteelyEyes
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Posted: 05 December 2004 at 07:28 |
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I used to use the instant oatmeal packets too. Then I got to looking at how much of it was sugar and how much of it was oatmeal. It's about 50-50. I get hungry too soon after eating two or three packs of that stuff. The way I make my oatmeal takes no more time and it keeps me full longer when I'm hunting. Sometimes I'll toss in some chopped nuts and dried fruit but usually it's just oatmeal and some brown sugar.
Dinner stuff depends on the season and if you have coolers and ice or not. We put our food near the creek in the shade in those flexible coolers. The meat we freeze at home in the cooler and then add dry ice on the trip to the trail head. I've had meat stay frozen for 5 days in August on a pack trip once by doing that. The dry ice is gone by the first day but if you keep the food well insulated and out of the sun it doesn't thaw very fast. Things we've made are: chicken curry, spaghetti with browned hamburger in the sauce, steaks, italian sausages either on buns or with noodles and sauce, soft tacos, and pork chops. Those noodle dinner things in the envelopes are easy and cheap and filling. We always bring a few cans of condensed milk with us to make stuff like that. Our dinners usually only involve a couple of pans and the eating utensils. If we have a lot of people in camp we bring paper plates and use the fire to "wash" those. It there's just two or three of us we just bring regular plates. Another thing that's fast and easy is 1 can of corn, 1 can of beans, and 1 can of chopped tomatoes. We use black beans and the tomatoes with jalepeno. A can of that Rotele stuff would work too. Just mix it all together and heat it up. If you add some meat it's a one pot meal. If not it's a good side dish. One thin |
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Posted: 06 December 2004 at 12:20 |
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They got the man-sized packets out now. Meals always seems to fall on one feller. You need good food to keep up your strength on a hard hunt (is there any other kind?). I took the ol' lady last season, and she kept me an' FVA deep in the grub for a week. Only bad part was that canned corned beef hash we had one morning. I had the worst case of atomic squirts I've ever had. My meager supply of toilet tissue didn't go very far that day, and I nearly creamed my undies on a couple strenuous climbs. I like cooking over a fire when I ain't dead tired or anxious to get the hosses saddled. Ain't nothin' better than dutch oven cooked bisquits and a lil' sausage gravy. I cook my bisquits the night before, then all I gotta do is kick my bride outta the tent 'bout 3AM to fry up the sausage and make some gravy. No more cheap corned beef hash for this hombre. |
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Posted: 06 December 2004 at 14:30 |
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It might be the food or maybe it's the lack of TV but the timing, consistancy, frequency, and stench
of bowel movements always is a hot topic in camp. We laugh about that every year.
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Rayfromalaska
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Well, my hunting partners and I pack all kinds of stuff, load it on "meat
trailers," and get to our campsites on ATV's. I sleep in a small Wall tent that has a metallic frame of 2" conduit tubing, zippered door, zippered screen door and window, and a treated canvas floor topped with a couple of carpet runners, which in turn are topped by a large cot, camping table, chair, and a few other things. When we are out there we are enjoying our "hunting" vacations. We don't drink alcohol nor use drugs, but we eat well. My tent sits about 75 feet from my hunting partner's, and right in the middle of the campsite we have a clothes-washer drum that is surrounded by flat rocks half-way up. We grab a few short fire logs from a huge pile of firewood we keep, and light a fire in the drum. Once the fire has generated enough heat, we place a heavy iron BBQ grill on top of the drum, and drop on the grill a few steaks on large pieces of aluminum foil that have been coated with olive oil. Chopped onions and garlic follows over the steaks, plus more olive oil and a good portion of Mr. Dash. Finally, when the steaks are done, we sprinkle-in a little vinegar. While the vinegar burns some, we toast large chunks of wheat bread on the grill. A few seconds later we have a great dinner. My breakfast consists of hot oatmeal with raisins, and piece of wheat bread: I boil reduced fat milk, add a pre-measured portion of oatmeal/ raisins, and let them soften in the pot. I ride back to my campsite for lunch, pull out a pre-measured portion of elbow noodles, and cook them on a propane stove. While the noodles boil, I pull out a semi-frozen portion of spaghetti sauce with meat balls (my wife takes care of cooking and freezing these meals), and warm it over the fire in another pot. I have this lunch twice per week, and the rest of the time I have black eye-pea or split pea soups my wife has prepared and frozen for me. Al these foods are home made (no canned foods). I carry the following foods in a backpack (on my ATV), and eat or drink them between meals: Tuna lunch kits, water, hot cocoa, tea, brown sugar, trail mix (my wife takes care of this). I mix my own version of cocoa powder from unsweetened Hershey's baking cocoa, except that I follow the hot cocoa recipe on the side of the can using a little powdered cinnamon, and brown sugar. I don't use as much sugar as indicated by the recipe, however. I use hot water while hunting, and milk at the campsite. The milk is kept cold in the ice chest. I use a propane backpack stove while hunting. Sometimes we have blueberry pancakes for breakfast, with bacon and scrambled eggs. The blueberries are picked fresh from around our campsite. Another favorite dinner of ours is as follows: Boil a few potato chunks or cubes large enough to take 20 minutes in the pot. Meanwhile fry the following ingredients in a frying pan over a good portion of olive oil (we only use olive oil): Chopped celery, small chunks of your favorite sausage, chopped onions, chopped black olives (lots of celery, onions, and olives for volume). Once the mix is almost done to your liking, have one of your trusty and not clumsy hunting partners drain the potatoes. At this time, add a good portion of Mrs. dash to the mix in the pan, chopped (or dehydrated) garlic, followed by a good portion of vinegar. Remember not to cover the mix; you want high heat and steam coming out of the frying pan for a crunchy bite. Allow the vinegar to fry just enough, and then pour the hot mix right over the potatoes in the large pot. Add salt (or potassium) to taste, but to your portion in the bowl only. Try this recipe when it's cool or rainy outside, You will like it. You can substitute the sausage with very small chunks of meat if you like, but in this case brown the meat a little before you add the other ingredients. ---------- I apologize for the long post; my point was, however, that I completely agree with the first post. I have a great time while hunting, and that has not interfered at all with my time out there. So far I have killed my moose each season, except for one. In fact, I end-up seeing the right moose when I am worrying the least about hunting, and I have shot the most while my hunting partners are snoring in their tent. Sometimes I have to wake them up to tell them that I already have a moose on the ground. They don't mind if I do the killing, since we share the moose in equal portions. We do work as a team skinning and quartering the moose, though. Edited by Rayfromalaska |
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Rayfromalaska
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Toilet tissue does not work very well on rainy moose season. The best toilet tissue I can think of is a roll of Brawny paper towel
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Camp food usually depends on how far from the car is the camp and who is carrying the food? I was the camp cook for years with 5-6 guys......I Quit after 10 years of abuse. Everyone thought the cook was half slave and half their mother/wife. I have camped a lot and the one rule I have is K.i.s.s. (keep it simple stupid). One brother always wanted dill pickles. well he but a half gallon glass jar in my backpack one time then during lunch kept saying "boy, would a Heinz genuine dill go good with his sandwich". Then he reached deep into my pack and passed around the pickles and laughed. that year I resigned. But pay back is a bitch....two years later after the incident was forgotten by many. I put 3 bibles in his pack before we left the car. After lunch I said that we should maybe say some prayers for the beautiful day we had. Being the Christian he was (I'm not) he strongly agreed. I then suggested bible appropriate readings....yep....I reached into the pack and instant bibles. Like lots of things in life if people have others waiting on them or carrying the provisions into camp....they demand more than they themselves would give. K.i.s.s. off. BEAR |
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Posted: 05 August 2005 at 12:45 |
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ray - souds like you put on a hell of a nice camp!
![]() bear - i was always taught to alernate the "duties," partially in order to be fair, but i suspect it is also so that everyone has an appreciation for what each job entails. |
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