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TasunkaWitko 
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 Topic: biggest myths in shootingPosted: 05 May 2005 at 04:22 |
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any nominations?
i'll start with: "an out-of-the-box savage will outshoot anything, and that's BEFORE adjusting the accutrigger" |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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klallen
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 05:15 |
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Hmmmm, let's see here. How 'bout the opposite of TAS's : "a N-I-B savage can't outshoot anything factory" |
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A Big Mouth Don't Make A Big Man !!!
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TasunkaWitko
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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fish
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 05:48 |
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only remingtons are worth customizing - or having.
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d2redneck
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 07:34 |
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old WWI AND WWII battle rifles can't hit a deer (except mine of course bk)
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hunting or wife hunting or wife. Honey I'm getting the dogs be back later.
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Ranch 13
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 07:55 |
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Almost impossible to hit anything with the 30-30 past 150 yds (we all know it falls harmless to the ground at 152.3 yds
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The most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to.
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 08:52 |
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No. 1 The bullet 'goes to sleep' after 200 yards and the 300 yard groups gets smaller. No.2 CRF is a better action that push feed. No. 3 The Remington spring extractor is a POS. No. 4 The Vangard is a real Weatherrby. And the Howa factory is located in New Hampshire! BEAR
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NH_Hunter
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 10:02 |
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Ruger sucks.
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waksupi
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 10:36 |
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The Remington extractor IS a piece of shit! If you know how to make them work good, let me know.
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Lawdog
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 10:53 |
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1.] Remington has the SAFEST/EASIEST operating safety in the industry 2.] Remington has the STRONGEST extractors of any bolt action made today 3.] Remington has NEVER had a bolt handle problem 4.] Remington’s quality control is UNSURPASSED in the industry 5.] Remington’s customer service is UNSURPASSED in the industry 6.] The Push Feed action is the PREFERRED choice of PH’s and anyone that is looking for a Dangerous Game rifle
Should do for starters.
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Rob1
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 12:34 |
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Remingtons have *nice* wood, people must like shiney things. Ditto for a lot of WBY wood. Some looks nice but even many of those should have been used to make furnature. Ditto the Vanguard is a real WBY, hey Freddy...... On a side note I do believe Savage would win or be near the top of a large scale competition for accuracy. I think as much of custom Remingtons as I do of four door Chevelles with SS stripes and chrome wheels. I do believe a CRF is a better rifle for many applications............. |
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Kingpin
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Posted: 05 May 2005 at 17:02 |
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1.] Remington has the SAFEST/EASIEST operating safety in the industry As far as I am concerned, ANY safety on ANY firearm is between the shooters ears. The thought of sueing a manufacturer becase of stupidity is.............stupid. 2.] Remington has the STRONGEST extractors of any bolt action made today This is the first I ever heard of this, so it must be a myth, considering the volume of rifles that I work on. 3.] Remington has NEVER had a bolt handle problem I have seen three bolt handle separations in 17 years on real world guns. Refer to answer two. 4.] Remington’s quality control is UNSURPASSED in the industry I never EVER heard this, when was it printed in any of their flyers? 5.] Remington’s customer service is UNSURPASSED in the industry In over 20 years of dealing with them, I have always had a good repoire with them, so, I can't comment on individual phone calls and service.
6.] The Push Feed action is the PREFERRED choice of PH’s and anyone that is looking for a Dangerous Game rifle I never heard any of this before, so, please quote phrase and paragraph on where I may glean this info. I will say, on the matter, that "CRF" is as old as Mauser is, and they called it a "claw extractor." Winchester coined the phrase, and this was confirmed to me personally by the Winchester Historian. The Remington extractor IS a piece of shit! If you know how to make them work good, let me know. In 17 years of servicing real world Remingtons, I have only replaced 2 extractors. They were the rivited type and had been in service for ten years before I saw them. They had been rebaralled twice, by their log books. Ruger sucks. Not entirely, it just what a person wants to buy with his/her own money, legally. only remingtons are worth customizing - or having. Not entirely, many rifles are worth the work, few are willing to pay for it. On the whole, Remingtons have many, many, more after market parts, making it almost economical to customize them. Then again, one could always buy a Dakota rifle and the arguement would stop. "a N-I-B savage can't outshoot anything factory" I can't confirm this, but on a personal basis, I never saw one outshoot anything that I ever bought.Then after I did a modicum of work on my personal rifles, nothing came close, even an old shot out Mauser that I once owned. Then again, possibly I know what to look for in a "N-I-B" situation. I don't just buy the first thing I see just because it's a bargain. Now, did I take the title of this thread wrong, or is there a fight brewing?...............................................Kingp in Edited by Kingpin |
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fish
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Posted: 06 May 2005 at 02:51 |
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hee hee hee ... can't be a fight brewing ... not here ... not now ... speaking of fights, i have grown mildly enamored recently of the weatherby version of the vanguard. i like the profile of the receiver, and the lines and LOP of the milk jug stock (the stock can always be changed, boys). the vanguards in particular that i have examined recently are a .338 win mag and a .300 weatherby, as new but slightly used. since the .300 weatherby ammo is about twice the price of the .338, i am more enamored of the mid-bore. what say ye, ye myth mongers? i figure i can put one on layaway and get it for $350. worth the effort? |
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waksupi
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Posted: 06 May 2005 at 08:01 |
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Ok, someone clue me in on the Remington extractor. After maybe 500 rounds or less through a new M-700, it does a piss poor job. Cases are seldom fully ejected from the firearm, and many times aren't fully extracted from the chamber. This is good? What's wrong? I prefer my old Mauser claw extractors. They work. |
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Posted: 06 May 2005 at 08:46 |
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"Aww, it hits close enough for deer hunting...."
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Lawdog
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Posted: 06 May 2005 at 08:56 |
I think that maybe you did take the title of this thread wrong. We are posting falsehoods(like the title said, Myths) and that is why I posted what I did. Everything I posted is a lie. Lawdog
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Kingpin
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Posted: 06 May 2005 at 11:38 |
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Sorry Lawdog, I guess I missed the title. I am NOT in the habit of lying, so go ahead, tell somemore lies, maybe I can learn how and join in..............................Kingpin |
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NH_Hunter
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 13:39 |
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Kingpin, I will believe that when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.
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Kingpin
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 15:56 |
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AW NH, love you like a son, but, when it comes to rifles and auto pistols, I am incapable of lying. Ride hard, shoot straight, and tell the truth. Title of a book I read once, and I see no reason to deviate from that title. Being a CAV man, I will fight over a woman, rot gut whiskey, and lie with the best, but, I will gladly give the last drop of my canteen to a "brother," (not the soul kind, unless he has chewed on the same saddle skirt as I did). I recon that ought to remove all doubts. On the Rem. customer service, I don't base my attitudes on what I heard someone say, I base it on facts. That, and the fact that I can go to the service center and find out why something (under warrenty) can't be fixed. The service center is about three hours from me (and I have made the trek there) and to date, have never been shaded by them. Maybe it's a matter of talking to them civily. Now, I won't sit here and tell you that every Rem. rifle that I own is stock. In fact, I rarely buy them to hunt with stock, I usually take them apart to make something else. Crooked bores and iffy triggers have never been a factor to me, because I can make them do what I need them for. The rifles that I have, have always been above sending them to a service center, because I know what I need them to do when I build them, not necessarily what they were made for. I fully realize that we all do not own a machine shop, as I do, or even know what to do with them when they are chucked up in a lathe, but then again, I do, and my rifles all, without fault, operate within the parameters that I decided that they should. Then again, I have heard ALL the horror stories about their customer service and found them mostly to be, second hand. No one who ever had a problem with one, who brought it to me, had a problem after it left my shop. Sure, they paid for it, but, I doubt that Rem would do what I do to make them shoot hard. On a lesser note, I find that Ruger is a first rate, customer oriented place to do business..................................Kingpin
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 20:19 |
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And the #1 gun myth......(brand name here) is the best gun ever made or
can be bought... Jay |
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