| Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
sparky
.243 Winchester
Joined: 27 August 2003
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 219
|
Topic: best all around bird dog ? Posted: 01 September 2003 at 06:38 |
|
I am seriously considering getting a bird dog soon and I would appreciate any input you guys have. I do both duck/goose hunting as well as upland gamebird( grouse etc) Any recomendations on which breed of dog would a decent job at this double duty ?
|
 |
Tikkabuck
Administrator
**Robert E. Lee IV **
Joined: 10 June 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8740
|
Posted: 01 September 2003 at 08:42 |
Hey There
Sparky,hey there ain't said hello yet,welcome to the Baitshop.
I've hunted around lots of dogs all my life,ducks,geese,chucker,quail all of them I reckon. In my humble opinion,the best all around four legged hunting buddy is a Lab,but I've breed them and know them and love them. They are easy to train and willing to please. Chessy's are good for real cold weather goose hunting but got skulls about 1" thick.
BUT,if your gonna do all upland hunting this may not be a good thing.
Sorry about that but theres some mighty good folks on here that also have great dogs and I didn't want to upset them.


Yep they out hunt me most the time.
Edited by Tikkabuck
|
|
God,Mother,Country,and Hot Rods. Done with political crap.LOL
|
 |
sparky
.243 Winchester
Joined: 27 August 2003
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 219
|
Posted: 01 September 2003 at 12:43 |
|
Thanks for the welcome and the input Tikkabuck. I've been leaning towards a Lab or Golden retreiver. I'll definetly keep you posted on my choice
|
 |
Tikkabuck
Administrator
**Robert E. Lee IV **
Joined: 10 June 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8740
|
Posted: 01 September 2003 at 13:59 |
Hey There
Goldies would are a great one also and one of my favorites,I just get real bad allergies when the daly brushing begins.I get a bad case of " Oh I need to go to the store" or "I think I need to go help at the er hmm oh ya mow someones grass" My wife can tell ya.
Take Care Mike
|
|
God,Mother,Country,and Hot Rods. Done with political crap.LOL
|
 |
Drae
.223 Remington
Joined: 19 June 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 52
|
Posted: 04 September 2003 at 01:32 |
|
I like the Golden Retreiver. Through the years, I have had a lab & American Water Spaniel & 3 Goldens. Goldens, I like them! Nothing wrong with a Lab But I think they more prone to roam & Goldens are more layed back. I give my Golden a hair cut every spring. That helps the hair problem for a few months. Their hair is a problem with weed seeds! I consider this Golden the best pheasant hunting dog in the world! For grouse he gets out a little to far. Which reminds me, grouse hunting starts here on the 13th.
|
 |
Wing master
Administrator
AKA StraightShooter
Joined: 10 June 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8029
|
Posted: 05 September 2003 at 19:10 |
Dont forget about the German Shorthaired pointer. I dont do ducks and geese but I have a couple of buddys that do and they say they are good at that too. To me their is nothing like a good pointer that can pin down a pheasant and hold it for several minutes while I haul my fat a$$ over there to flush and shoot the bird. Also on most occasions when I miss the shot my dogs are fast enough that they catch the bird when it lands and retrieve it without any shot to pick out of the breast.
I never have had a Lab, and Tikkabuck might be right if you are going to hunt ducks and geese but these guys are worth a look.
Wing master
|
|
I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
|
 |
sparky
.243 Winchester
Joined: 27 August 2003
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 219
|
Posted: 06 September 2003 at 05:17 |
Wingmaster
Thanks for the input..........I've been doing some research on the web and have added the German Shorthaired pointer to my " short list"
1) german shorthaired pointer
2) Lab
3) Golden retriever
Now I just have to convince the wife that we ( I ) "need" a dog !!
|
 |
Drae
.223 Remington
Joined: 19 June 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 52
|
Posted: 06 September 2003 at 06:41 |
German short-hair pointer is a good choice! Probably, the best nose of all 3! But if you have never had a pointer of any breed it might get on your nerves! A pointer is bred to cover a lot of ground & you simply walk keeping an eye on it or listening to the peeper or bell. That means they are wired & are on the run all the time! I have lost track of the times, I have came across people driving their cars with their short-hair running along side. They were trying to run off some the piss & vinegar, before they started to hunt. They just defeated the whole purpose of having a pointer! If you want a close working dog stay with a retriever. If you want a dog that has a good nose , covers a lot of ground & you can handle what comes with that, get a short-hair!
PS, Everyone needs a dog!!
|
 |
Tikkabuck
Administrator
**Robert E. Lee IV **
Joined: 10 June 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8740
|
Posted: 06 September 2003 at 14:34 |
Hey There
I have hunted with some shorthairs also,some of the best pheasent dogs ever,I bet they would be a great waterfowl dog.I think I would be just a little scared though to have them here in the worse part of duck season some of the big water here gets iced over and we have to break ice to get to the blinds,how are they in the cold do they shiver real bad?
We had a Lab once that would not calm down for nothing when we went pheasent hunting till she just about wore herself out then she was excellent. An older feller at the club was laughing so hard once I thought he was gonna have a heart attack,he told us next time we went back to come get him before we let her out of the truck and he would see if he could help us calm her down,OK. Next day we were back and he took us to a field where no one was hunting that day and out of his truck he came with a Tow Chain a BIG TOW CHAIN,hooked it on her coller and you would not belive how fast it wore her down,in no time she was ready to hunt.We did that to her about 3 or 4 times and never had to again. She was all work after that.
Sorry for the long and hot air just remembered that and thought I'd tell ya all.
Mike
|
|
God,Mother,Country,and Hot Rods. Done with political crap.LOL
|
 |
waksupi
.416 Rigby
aka Keeper of the Old Traditions
Joined: 11 June 2003
Status: Offline
Points: 2371
|
Posted: 06 September 2003 at 17:55 |
My vote goes for the Chessie. The old bitch I had would hunt everything, including deer and elk antlers in the spring for me. She was once used on a man hunt successfully, and trailed more than one wounded animal for neighbors.
The hardest thing about training a Chessie is outside distractions. If you live alone, and spend 24 hours a day with the dog, something clicks after about six weeks. Along with the bonding, the animal has studied you, and did a bit of training, thierselves, on you. This is after the 49 day age period. With other people around, the training is much more difficult. I found Banker to be one of the easiest dogs I ever trained. We reached an almost telepathic level of communication. The problem with this training style is the socialization takes some time afterwards, but is entirely possible. Mine got to where absolutely anyone could go up to her and pet her. Some males never get over the aggressiveness, and must be carefully controlled. They are VERY protective and possessive of thier masters property, real or percieved.
All this aside on the hard headedness, a Chesapeake will hunt grouse, rabbit, deer, bear, ducks, geese, men, you name it. And will joyfully and playfully kill any Doberman, Pitt Bull, or Rottweiler that would be silly enough to challenge them. Or anyone who threatened your children or wife.
A Chessie is one tough dog.
|
 |