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 Topic: Annealing BrassPosted: 15 March 2021 at 12:47 |
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Do any of you anneal your brass? Is it worth the time and expense?
If so what is your process? Wing master
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Posted: 16 March 2021 at 14:46 |
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Wing, Iv'e had an Annealeez for several years now. It's not a $2K machine, but it works just fine for me. I usually try to anneal brass after 3 or 4 firings. |
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Posted: 16 March 2021 at 23:33 |
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Thanks Lizard.
Do you feel like it extends the life of your brass? Do you see better accuracy because of more consistent neck tension? I have been looking at Annealeez and a couple others. They look like good machines. Wing master
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Posted: 17 March 2021 at 05:52 |
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After 5-6 firings of rifle cases I anneal. I use electric var speed drill and propane torch. Tempcoat changes color at proper temp. a hex bit with a 3/8 drive and long socket keep the body out of flame/temp. simple. after a few cases then you know how many seconds to rotate the cartridge.
The machine are great, but way more expensive than I need, for what they do.
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Posted: 17 March 2021 at 10:02 |
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That's my thought too Bear. It would be hard to justify spending that much on a machine. I already have a drill.
What do you see as the benefit of annealing your brass? Is it worth the time and effort? Wing master
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Posted: 17 March 2021 at 10:50 |
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Wing, I don't really know if the consistent neck tension is helping with accuracy, but annealing definitely extends case life. And now with the high cost and shortage of brass, annealing is a plus. Over the winter I annealed over 600 brass cases in a very short time. It's priority like anything else. Did I need that annealing tool? No, but I wanted it. I just purchased another rifle in .204 Ruger. Did I need it? No but I wanted it. At my age of almost 77 I buy what I want now. Just more things to pass on to my son and grandson.
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Posted: 17 March 2021 at 18:12 |
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I have an annealeze, worth every penny. I anneal my brass every 5 or 6 firings or so. I have enough brass in all I shoot that when it needs annealing I set it aside and wait till I have several boxes of brass that need attention and do them all at the same time. I know it has saved brass for me over the years.
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Posted: 18 March 2021 at 12:29 |
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Thanks for the input guys.
I think I might start using Bears method and see how it goes. I assume annealing should mostly eliminate cracked case necks. I'd say almost half of the brass I throw away is because of loose primer pockets. That's why I was hoping their would be more benefits to annealing. Wing master
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Posted: 18 March 2021 at 12:30 |
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What temperature do you heat the brass to?
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Posted: 18 March 2021 at 15:37 |
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Not sure it is perfect, but I use a templat 399oC stick.
basically I duplicate this Hornady kit, no longer available.https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012738899
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Posted: 18 March 2021 at 15:52 |
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All the loading my boy does he has never annealed any brass.
About 20% of my factory 8mmrem mag shells, the neck split first shot... So far none of the Winchester or bantam brass has split, after a few loads.
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Posted: 18 March 2021 at 16:22 |
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necks can be the problem.
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Posted: 20 March 2021 at 19:31 |
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So, 3999 celsius is 750 ferenheit. Is that right?
I have a couple different temp sticks in my tool box from when I was a mechanic. Ill dig them out and see what temp they are. D, What causes them to crack on the first firing? I don't think I've ever had that happen. Pressure? Wing master
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Posted: 20 March 2021 at 19:56 |
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"D, What causes them to crack on the first firing? I don't think I've ever had that happen. Pressure?"
I have no Idea, No Pressure sing at all.
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Posted: 21 March 2021 at 06:37 |
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Wing you got the wrong multiplied, upside down.
750 oF is 400 oC The F guys are smaller than the C guys!
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Posted: 21 March 2021 at 14:02 |
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OK Thanks Bear.
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Posted: 21 March 2021 at 14:04 |
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Thats interesting D.
I'm sure that brass isn't cheap to begin with. Wing master
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Posted: 21 March 2021 at 16:24 |
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hardened hases are 'brittle' so they crack. Usually takes many 'work hardening' firing to make brittle.
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Posted: 21 March 2021 at 17:09 |
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Factory loads never fired till I pulled the triggers.
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Posted: 22 March 2021 at 06:23 |
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D could be thin necks. Do they all crack? or just a few.
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