.223 Die Question

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   Fella's;
I've got a set of Dillon .223 dies, a Redding .223 neck sizer die, a case gauge, and a little problem.  The situation is I'm sitting on a fair number of .223 brass that's been fired in max chamber and shows long in the case gauge.  The problem is my Dillion sizer die won't bump the shoulder back enough to pass the gauge.  And yes, I've got it screwed in as far as it'll go.
The question is; does anybody know of a die that will fer sure, fer sure, bump the shoulder back?  With times the way they are, I do not want to dump this brass if I don't have to.  
900F

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CB900F Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857	Post Options Post Reply Quote CB900F Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: .223 Die Question Posted: 07 December 2008 at 14:51
	Fella's; I've got a set of Dillon .223 dies, a Redding .223 neck sizer die, a case gauge, and a little problem. The situation is I'm sitting on a fair number of .223 brass that's been fired in max chamber and shows long in the case gauge. The problem is my Dillion sizer die won't bump the shoulder back enough to pass the gauge. And yes, I've got it screwed in as far as it'll go. The question is; does anybody know of a die that will fer sure, fer sure, bump the shoulder back? With times the way they are, I do not want to dump this brass if I don't have to. 900F
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Rockydog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockydog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 December 2008 at 15:17
	CB, If I understand the problem correctly your die is too long? Why not grind the shell holder a little thinner or shorten the die? I could see why you wouldn't want to gring the die but shell holders are cheap enough. If you do set the shoulder back won't you have headspace problems with the rifle? I've got a set of Lyman SB .223 and an RCBS X Die. Send me a half dozen brass and I'll size them and send them back to see if these'll do it. RD
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CB900F Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857	Post Options Post Reply Quote CB900F Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 December 2008 at 16:05
	Rocky; No, that's not it at all. The used brass is too long & need the shoulder set back to headspace properly. The Dillon die has been set as deep as possible, but isn't able to bump the shoulder back. Grinding a Dillon shellholder isn't in the cards, they're not cheap. The used cases, before or after sizing, will not clear the gauge. So, I'm on the search for a new gauge that will bump the shoulder back. Please do PM me with your address, I'll send you some cases. 900F
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deaddog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA The Flying Gun Joined: 23 April 2004 Location: Svalbard Status: Offline Points: 991201	Post Options Post Reply Quote deaddog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 December 2008 at 06:52
	I'm trying to wrap my head around this one. The overall length is OK but the shoulder is too long? Normally the die squeezes the brass and the neck grows as if being extruded and is then trimmed to size but you can't get your die to do it? I imagine the stuff won't work in your AR but can you close the bolt on your bolt action? DD
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 December 2008 at 07:16
	Thought you had a manual press also CB? I've used that "thin" shell holder trick when doing wild cats. My Rcbs holders are cheap. Would the Dillion size die fit in your o press and then use a cheapy shell holder?