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    Posted: 30 October 2017 at 22:01
For a while I have been thinking I need a bolt action .223. I have a bunch of .223 ammo that I loaded for my AR and I really don't shoot it very often. I think I would use it kinda as a truck gun. I wouldn't leave it in my truck, but any time I leave town I could grab it in case I ran across a coyote or prairie dog town or anything else that needs shootin'. 

My question is, I can get a Remington model 700 at walmart for $379.00. It has a cheap looking plastic stock and even cheaper looking scope. 

The other option is the local sporting goods store has a Howa 1500 for, if i remember right, $489.00. It's a "salesmans sample". I assume that means it should have the better options??? It has a lot better stock. The stock looks a lot like a Bell and Carlson but it very well could be something else. and it has no scope. Not that that matters, because I would replace the scope on the Remington about as soon as I got it. 

Witch one is the better buy? Remington 700's are usually pretty accurate and it is cheaper. On the other hand, I have had two Howas and they were accurate and I really liked them, but they are heavier than the Remington. Also I'm not 100% sure I can get used to the cheap plastic stock. If I decided later to replace it a new stock would be more than $100. Probably closer to $200. 

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hey wing, for a "truck" rifle I'd look hard at the Rurger American line. I have one in .223 which I consider my truck gun....LH version of course. Very good pricing and nice trigger plus reinforced synthetic stock to enhance accuracy. Not heavy and short bbl makes good truck gun. 

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Lots of inexpensive combo rifles today, and they shoot great.  Ruger American, Rem 783, T/C Compass, etc.

But, I'd go with the 700ADL or SPS ay Walmart.  My son has one in 223 to complement his AR.  Shoots lights out with a 1:12 twist.  In family we have about 8 of those low end 700s, great way to go.  Lots of add on 'stuff' available.  I was using a 700 adl in 22-250 to 'remove' a prairie dog town, rumor has it.

I think a  "salesmans sample" means it is used, or shop worn from being on a display rack and handled by customers.


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Not your classic truck gun, but I have a few in different chambering's and they shoot decent. Even when not on sale, $100 rebate makes them pretty decent price.
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With those two choices, I'd say the Howa 1500 hands down. It is simply a higher-quality rifle, in my opinion...and it hurts to say that. I am a fan of the old Remington 700s, but something has happened to them over the years, and it hasn't been good.
 
I owned a Howa in .233 for a little while, and was very happy with it. I wouldn't have gotten rid of it, but we had no car at the time and a guy proposed to trade the rifle for his car, which was in pretty good shape - so, I did what I had to do.
 
The Ruger Mini-14 is always an option, but it's not a bolt action....
 
 


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I am looking at the same thing a .223 in bolt. I saw a Remington model 7 in the gun store in .223 and it was nice but the price was a little more, $450 or so. I liked the feel a lot better than the Ruger or the Howa.
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Look in to a CZ.
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Remember, if you are like me, you  will enjoy this rifle for a lot of years.  So a hundred bucks +- isn't a big deal.

I'm a BIG CZ fan thanks to CB 900.  Can;t go wrong with one, especially a FS model.
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If a CZ is thrown into the ring, I'd be choosing that, as well.
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I think when you are talking a "truck gun" than you need to take into account it will bounced around a lot and needs to be on the compact side and durable and reliable and reasonably accurate (a good scope added not necessarily a $2K Nightforce for example) and a synthetic stock vs nice walnut and not super shiny blue or shiny stainless and cambering of your choice and I feel a (removable type) magazine fed gun and not overly expensive and tuff so it (and scope)can bounce around in your truck for years. Not what you'd want to do with a high $$ glossy rifle....U can still have those "other" rifles too.


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Why not use your AR for your truck rifle???
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I would really like to have a CZ. Especially this one.
 
 
The thing is, It's not what I am looking for. It's a little over the price I think of as a truck gun. And the full stock model is way too nice to beat around in the cab of Ol' Rusty. (My hunting truck). Like IBD said, I don't want to worry about it. If it gets the blueing rubbed off and a few dings in the stock then it has served it's purpose.
 
The Savage looks good. I will try to handle one and check it out before I make a decision. The Ruger American too.
 
I could use my AR as a truck gun, but I am really more of a bolt action guy.
 
It looks like I might not get to work tomorrow since it's raining and supposed to snow over night. If that's the case I will go tomorrow and look at what the local gun shop has in stock and get a feel for what I think is the best quality for the price.
 
Thanks guys. I'll get back and let you know what I find.
 
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How about a used somewhat worn Marlin 336 in 30-30? about the most classic truck gun.
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Bear,

I have thought about that several times. I have a Marlin 336 in 30-30. It's from the mid 60's and it's in really good condition. 

Every time I think about it, I get it out and decide it's in too good of condition to beat around. 

I guess I could look for one on the used racks around town. 


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beautiful classic.  like the pose against the tree with snow cover!
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Thanks Bear, 

Every year I have one "old school" hunting day. I walk through the woods with a lever action with iron sights and try to have no new technology. No GPS, no synthetic clothing, etc. Nothing newer than the 1940' or 1950's. 

I never have gotten a deer on my "old school" day but it's a really fun hunting day. 

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Nice, Randy - and I am 100% certain those old-school hunting days are the truly memorable ones. Hug
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They definatly are Ron. 

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I agree Robert. That is a good deal. Thanks

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