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    Posted: 10 January 2018 at 21:02
I would be leery of causing a leak, most tanks are made out of stampings and have folded seam, where two halves meet. I would be easy to fold it and cause leak.
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Got my fuel tank today.
 I think it will work out very well.
 It has fuel take outs on top as well as a tube to vent the tank.
I'm going to adapt My Snowmobile filler cap and fuel gauge,
just a float and indicator, to fit in the top where the Car fuel pump would be.
I wish the front portion was an inch thinner.
 There are no baffles in that part of the tank. 
 Think I could slowly crush it down an inch or two?
I was thinking a 3/4" piece of plywood and lower the truck on to it
To make a slight "Taper" to the front 4" of the tank...
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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!
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tank foam???
 Never herd of it.
 The tank is baffled
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Just for accessibility. May I suggest tank foam? Helps to keep the sloshing around from happening.
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NO.
 Why?
It is an in hull tank kinda.
It will be in the "Cat Walk"
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Now will you tack weld a couple handles on that to make it removable?
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No they came with a mechanical fuel pump.
 I have already covered the mounting point and removed all the components of the pump.
I already have an external High flow low presser 12 volt
Fuel pump.
I can use it if I up grade to a double carb system too.
It will pull gas from a gas can on the ground up to the carb about
6 feet off the ground, it will draw gas from a top access pipe from the tank. I'll vent the tank with a pipe that runs to the Top of the prop cage.
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Sounds good and safe.

Did the bug engine have an electric fuel pump?

Was it in the gas tank?
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Steel.
11 pounds + 94 pounds of gas. 105 pounds ...
 looks like the wife will have to stay on the shore.
But I think I need that much, if it's to muck I'll only fill it part way.
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plastic????
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I found a new steel tank that with a little "Body Work" on the tank, I think I can make it work.
It's for a jeep Cj. 15 gal $48 and free shipping.
That's cheaper then I can make it.
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We used to use round stainless tanks in drag boats in 70s, just make sure they have top fuel pickup, that's been required since 80s. When I got out of it, guys where switching to big aluminum motors, even in "economy" classes. Last boat, I had motor from Rex Hutchison, it had more power than my boat could handle. He passed away last fall, he built a lot of motors, in his time.

There's nothing like 130mph in 1/4 on water, except now they break 270mph, in top classes. You basically flying boat, with only prop and rudder in water, until something goes wrong, if you dip edge, they come apart rather quickly.
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Have you thought of 4" Sch 40 plastic pipe, maybe 2 of them  running front to back between the cats?  angled slightly downhill for better feed.

for long range in my small tri-hull (14") I carried 3 6 gallon red plastic , and weight distributed them.  They lasted 50+ years, sold the boat but kept one and still use it.

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 easy to have one welded with al pipe.



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I would not recommend making any tank out of resins. Fuel is the enemy and the sunlight enhances that effect dramatically. If it was me, I'ld hit the local junk yards and grab a pair of small fuel tanks from economy cars. Most of them have a flat welded rib that can be used as a support across frame rails. A pair of added straps to hold them up covered in rubber roof seam tape and your in business. Make a flat box to fit over them and you can haul your game and supplies on top then. Nice thing is they will already have a fill tube and a sending unit you won't have to fashion.
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What about an aluminum tank? I'm betting your guy that welded your aluminum could make one about any shape you wanted. 


These guys make custom tanks too. 

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They have Coast Guard Auxiliary on Flathead Lake, they patrol in the summer season and they visit other area lakes, doing boater safety outreach. Just like "real" coast guard, they have enforcement powers. They also work with ICE on Lake Koocanusa, doing enforcement and safety inspection both. I'm surprised you haven't run into them, http://wow.uscgaux.info/content.php?unit=130-10-03


I wasn't aware paddles were no longer required, just suggested equipment. Like I said, saltwater, States and larger rivers have different requirements. Boats over 26 foot also have additional requirements, along with the saltwater. I've always just did what Dad taught was required, he's mainly done saltwater, in 28 foot boat, for last 40 yrs, so that's what I've known.

http://wow.uscgaux.info/content.php?unit=V-DEPT&category=virtual-safety-check


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By the way you do NOT need a paddle.
I went through that with my 18' jet, It is SUGGESTED you have one.
I wanted to use two long handled shovels and not have a paddle. The FWP and Coast guard both said it is a suggestion.
Where to you boat that I don't. ONLY place I know of that there MAY be a CG is fort peck.Star
Never seen a CG sticker in any MT boat window


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I've been checked by Coast Guard, "courtesy inspection", (but they will just do official inspection, if you turn down "courtesy inspection"), many times, at least once per year until, you have that years inspection sticker in window.

They always, check for blower (for fuel tank), bilge pump or bailing device, signaling device (sight and sound (night time if over certain length)), rope and anchor, fire extinguisher, life jackets, throwable, paddle and registration.

I'm sure there's more I've forgetting, saltwater has few extra requirements and above ~20something feet, you have few extra regs.

Now that they have muzzle certification/cleaning stations, you can be they'll be doing more courtesy inspections, which they'll still write ticket, for any major safety issues or if they feel like it, minor stuff, sometimes, they let slide, with warning/fix it ticket.   

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Have you ever been checked by the EPA or coast guard ?
Even the few times I have been checked by our FWP gestapo, they never looked at registration or my fuel tank... 
the boat is already licensed and "certified" and checked through the FWP, and DMV.
The tank will be in the center of the boat between the cats.
No room for extra tanks or cans in the boat.
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