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    Posted: 16 July 2003 at 16:27

I keep hearin that you pack in and setup a nice canvas tent.  Are these the types you see in Cabela's, or somethin different.

Things that come to mind are a floor, how big of a tent, do you get an entrance section or just a regular tent.   Think it was SS that said to use a Air bed instead of air mattress (which is which / difference?)  I know about the sleepin bag, but what else is a major concern with fixin a tent?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2003 at 12:53
I been shoppin' fer a new tent since a bar customized my range tipee to his likin'.  Onct I saw thet pyramid tent of Rollinb's, I decided to git one of them.  Ordered it a couple days ago.  Easy to pitch is prime with me, since I ain't got an' army of help.  All you do is stake out the corners an' raise the pole up inside.  Goin' to git a cylinder stove to heat it with.  I like to pack on the light side, never more 'an two animals if I can hep it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2003 at 15:13

Mule,

   Thet's what I've been wonderin, them big outfitters tent's thet cabela's has takes a bunch of room, an then you got a stove!  On the other hand I don't like the idea of no bivy either.  Send me a picture of thet Teepee, I'd half to see how big she is fer I got serious.  Hell maybe I ought to just come up to the other Rondavoo.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2003 at 17:40

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I have a 10x12 wall tent. It works pretty good for me and my son. If you have more than 2 people I would recomend something bigger.

Do a web search on Davis tent and awning. They are in denver colorado and have good quality stuff and the best prices I have found.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2003 at 02:54

Spot. An air matress is one of those old things with tubes, about 30 inches wide that you keep rolling off. An air bed is as a large as you want to get, single, double, queen, king. The air bed, usaully has some type of covering on it, and has chambers so the air don't rush out of wher you ar elayning , and they are about 8" high. YOu alwasy wnat to put aheavy blanket or domething between it and your bacg to soak up body mositure and be sur eto turn you bag back evey morning so it can dry.

For my single man tent, I have one of those old 6 man octagonal sqaud tent that has 2 ft walls and one pole in the middle.

Ain't nothing that compare to a good wall tent with 5 ft walls, for comfort and durability.

I just use a poly tarp for a floor, but you do want sod flap.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2003 at 10:57

I've got a 10x15 wall tent made out of rugged 12oz canvas (non-treated) with 5' walls.  The tent is made by Redhawk Trading, makers of tipis and mountainman style tents (top quality but traditional styled).  This is a custom size, and I can pack it on one side of a decker pack saddle, even when I have to pack it home wet.  Anything bigger would be too heavy for a half  load (one side, basket hitched).  I don't have a floor as they only add weight... tent has sod cloth and I use canvas manties (used to pack gear) for a floor.  Poles are cut from deadfall in the backcountry.  My stove is a Hunter model Cylinder stove which are heavy, but the best quality.  Nothing beats a wall tent for the backcountry, but they do take an effort to put up.

The pyramid (range) tent is a good alternative if you want something easier to set up.  I'd like to get one for short weekend trips.

I use the aluminum army cots (can get through Cabelas) with the coat racks and nightstand and a self inflating pad.  I have a aluminum kitchen box with legs and shelves that fold down to make a table.  The cots and kitchen box help make a tidy, organized tent.  Even got one of them toilet seat chairs which I think has been my biggest camp improvement.

I don't like to cook in the tent because my clothes get too smelly (for hunting), so I bring one or two 10" dutch ovens and cook outside.  I like to eat good. 

I figger my elk camp is second to none. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2003 at 12:08

I'm Startin to get some Idea's,  I would probably have one or two guy's with me.  More likely one then two, Hell I'd hunt alone if nature we're out ta get me.  Anywho, I like the idea of a wall tent but like selway said, they're a bit of a hassle puttin up.  Dutch oven's a good Idea, Don't know about the stoves you see in them tents.  Mule's got me thinkin about a Teepee but I ain't go no practical experience with one.  Hey Selway, them cot's a pain to pack in?  They look pretty big.  I figure on gettin the rest of my personal gear this year, and then startin to get rigged up next year so that I'll be ready for 05 to go on my own if I have too.  I only put a grand or so a year into hunting equipment, if I'd quit gun tradin, I'd probably be alot farther along.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2003 at 03:34

Those cots add quite a bit of weight and bulk, but they shorely is nice.  They weigh 20-30 lbs and break down plenty small enough to pack... at least in a manty... problee a little too long to fit in a fixed-sized panyard though.  You can pack larger, bulkier items in manties than panyards.

Those cots are tough and help to keep a clean, organized, and more comfortable camp while giving you more room in the tent to move around in.  You can keep your duffle and other gear under the cot; store rifle in nightstand gun case; keep coats and wet clothes hung up on coat rack to dry; keep sleeping bag spread out all the time - don't have to roll up to get out of the way; and use the cots for comfortable seats.  So them cots got more uses than just a good bed with no rocks pokin' ya in the kidney.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2003 at 10:46
I've got two bell backed A frames that Mrs. Triggerguard and I made ourselves. For short term use, an A frame has most of the good features of a wall tent, but much easier to pitch. Also self supporting, no guy ropes and such. My small one is 8 x 10, with a 3 foot bell on the rear, the big one is 10 x 14, with a 5 foot bell. The bell adds plenty of room for gear.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2003 at 05:31

Do any of you folks know if Wilderness Canvas is still up and running in Cody, Wyoming? 

Last I knew, a woman owned it and was making what looked to be some pretty nice tents along with packing bags and some outer wear.  I bought some packing bags, a vest and a coat back about 1991.  I liked what I bought and all of it is still in use and holding up OK. 

One of my old hunting partner's, now deceased, owned a big white canvas tent with extra tall side panels.  Took some effort to get up and down but made a nice camp once the stove was set up and drawing.  I've used cots and a variety of air mattresses.  One nice thing about a cot is that you can put stuff under it, where it's out of the way.  I think I've slept better on a good big air mattress on the ground, but a cot can be handy if you spend a lot to time in the tent.  Some, but not all, cots allow you a half way decent place to sit.  Up off the ground.  The older I get, the more that appeals to me.  Also, what you put on a cot don't normally get stepped on by accident, although it might get sat on. 

Like most of life, camp gear comes down to personal preferences.  What you're comfortable with and what works best for you.  We are all products of our accumulated experience.  And we are all different.  That's what makes reading what folks have to say about things interesting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2003 at 07:00
What I don't like about cots  is  that you are pretty much made to sleep on your back, which I can't. Two handy items to pack in are these new folding canvas chairs that go in a sack and the roll up tables
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2003 at 12:36

 I'm wonderin how many trips till I learn what I should and shouldn't take.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2003 at 14:45
Lets see, I have been doing it since about 66, a few times a year nad I still wind up with things ai don't use, and things I need that are back home.If you have shelter, food, cooking gear,your gun, license, a knife and some rope, you can make do with anything else. Course a first aid kit is a necessity with me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2003 at 12:16
Yes, wilderness canvas is still goin'.  My favorite store in the world is Outfitters Supply in Cody.  Onliest place I can find my braces what hook to my belt with leather loops.  If yer gonna have stuff on yer belt, you need a set of good braces, an' not those ones with the lil' clippy snaps either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2003 at 18:26

Thanks for the update.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2003 at 02:26

I tend to like canvas becasue I like thinking theres more between me an the elements that somethin as thick as tinfoil.  But there are a bunch of new types of resistant canvas materials out there.  Any of you use this new stuff, and what do you think about it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2003 at 12:22

I have a pyramid type tent except it has side poles. It's called a trail tent or TT. It's made by Beckel Canvas Products, Portland OR. The new design is Sunforger canvas on the top and some lightweight fabric on the sides. It's 14x14 with 5 foot sidewalls. Two people can fit in it just fine including your camp kitchen if the weather is lousy. It easily sleeps 4 if you have a separate kitchen. Without poles it's 34 lb. Poles are easy to find in the woods, all you need is 4 nails and a saw to make them.

I generally put a manty tarp down under the airbed and part of it sticks out to make a clean place to put your shoes on and stuff. Otherwise I don't use any kind of floor when packing in. I have cheap indoor outdoor carpet for when I camp at a trailhead. I slit it so part of it folds under when I put my stove in the tent.

I have cots and an airbed. If my wife goes we take the airbed. On the rare times she stays at home I take the cots. My cots are low to the ground and roll up. They are 6'6" long and don't weigh a lot. They fit in a top pack without trouble.

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