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Topic: Ruger revolver 45 long colt
Posted By: d4570
Subject: Ruger revolver 45 long colt
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 09:40
OK now I have two pistols.
I have had a phoenix arms 22 semi for a Long time.
But I just acquired a 45 long colt.
I have never even fired one, but it looks cool.
Anyway we have some 45 dies to cast bullets I'll try.
What would be a good starting style and weight?
I'm guessing it will be for plinking but will use it for hunting as needed. Powder?
I found some once fired brass and ordered 200 to start with, kinda pricy right now and new is mostly nonexistent.

Confused Anyway I now have another rabbit hole to slide in to.


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Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 09:50

Don’t try anything smaller than .452” 

.452-454 are for the Colt, .451 is for acp.

250-255gr is the standard. I shoot fairly light. Depending on the gun they can run with the .44 magnum.

7.7gr Unique and 6.1 Trailboss are my loads. 

DD


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 09:53
I've had a ruger  Blackhawk for about 52 years, great gun.  One whitetail with it (357).

I found that I just wanted one load for everything.  The semi-wadcutter is accurate and very good of hunting.  If 'traditional looks matter, then you want a 255 gr round nose.  For fun and allround  plinking and rabbits, etc   225 wad cutter would be my choice.  lighter recoil and less richochettes (bouncing).


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Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 10:42

Someone was shooting gophers at one of the first MYGAWDS with a .45LC.


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 11:48
I remember that, was it a friend of our biker friend?  or was it you???

adequate for   smaller gophers!


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 12:46
If I remember right it was Montana Madness buddy that was shooting gophers with a .45 LC. I never saw a gopher that was hit but I'm sure he had enough gun to kill one if he was able to hit it. 

Wing master


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 12:56
Originally posted by deaddog deaddog wrote:


Don’t try anything smaller than .452” 

.452-454 are for the Colt, .451 is for acp.

250-255gr is the standard. I shoot fairly light. Depending on the gun they can run with the .44 magnum.

7.7gr Unique and 6.1 Trailboss are my loads. 

DD

Good to know


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 13:04
Good memory Wing.

our software shows it has been 11 years since Montana Madness was on this site??????


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 29 January 2022 at 17:34
Wow. It doesn't seem like it's been that long. 

I'm really testing my memory here but the guy with the .45 went by the name of "Hard Tack". I think he was also a member here for a short time. 

Wing master


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 30 January 2022 at 08:11
Good memory...Hardtack.  had only one post here in April 2010.  Back then we had everyone join BSB to attend MYGaWs.

That was the trip were a friend of Jim's wheel came off in a remote field....found the lug nuts and put it back on!   No gophers att that place, I seem to remember MontanaMadness  found that spot.

someplace there is a group pic that year in Ft. Bento at "Shep" statue.


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 30 January 2022 at 20:33
You're right Bear. I think I have that picture. I'll look for it. 

When Jim's friends wheel came off it wasn't a total loss. I remember IBD feeding us a bunch of summer sausage and cheese curds. That's the only time I have ever had fresh cheese curds. They were a lot better than the ones I have found around here. 

Great times.

Wing master


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 30 January 2022 at 21:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY-nbyewRzo%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY-nbyewRzo

The same year at MYGAWDS


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 30 January 2022 at 21:22


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 30 January 2022 at 21:24
Sorry to derail your thread D4570

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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 31 January 2022 at 11:15
How did we do all that stuff in 2 days and still kill hundreds of gophers????


must have been younger???


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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 31 January 2022 at 20:10
Only thing missing in the photo is the number boards and a police lineup would be complete!

Buddy at work has a Ruger 45LC. Modern Ruger's will handel as hot as you can load stuff up to Cassul levels. He runs 255 gr. hardcasts at cowboy action levels and some stoked well past .44 mag speeds running hot. It digests them all quite nicely.


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 01 February 2022 at 07:49
Thumbs UpThumbs UpClap

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Posted By: 788Fan
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 07:48
I have a BH with the 4 5/8" tube on it that is my go to gun for being in the field.  It is an older one with both cylinders.  For hunting, I run a 255gr Keith on top of 16 grains of 2400.  It bangs good.  For fun, I'll put the ACP cylinder in and run whatever I have for ammo through it.  It's also a great way to burn up ACP round that don't work well in the 1911.  The other nice thing is that when I'm working outside during certain seasons, the LC cylinder takes the shot shells in case I happen to run into a "friend" that slithers.  

It rides in a Mernickle PS6SA, usually worn cross draw.

Stay safe.  788


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 08:30
HUMM
I think this one has a longer barrel.
It has two cylinders but they look identical.


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 08:47
Just thoughts.

Ruger made most models with two cylinders that interchange.  One is for 45LC the other for 45ACP.  Like 788 said.

They look identical from the out side.  BUT the chambers are dufferent.  the LC has a cut for the rim.  the 45 acp seats on the case mouth, so no rim cut and there is a ridge aabout 1/2" down the inside of the chamber to seat on the case mouth>


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 11:11
Humm I'll look.
I have SOOO much to learn.
And I have yet to shoot it.
We have molds for 239 gr and 193 gr bullets and a .452 sizer. blue dot, red dot, and 2400 powder. and 120 brass. 
As soon as the boy gets back from playing with the alligators, doing fire work in the glades. we will start to put something together, I hope.
Is there a way to put a holographic on it?



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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 11:55
The older one, not easy  need to remove rear sight and drill and tap.  Not sure on the recent ones.  Can mount weaver base and go from there.

https://www.eurooptic.com/burris-mount-ruger-m77-no-1-super-redhawk-super-blackhawk-hunter.aspx" rel="nofollow - https://www.eurooptic.com/burris-mount-ruger-m77-no-1-super-redhawk-super-blackhawk-hunter.aspx
there are a few mounts that fit the rear sight hole and then 'clamo on' to the frame.  

On our 44 mags we had them drilled and tapped for 4 screws.  this does change the resale value (unless sold to a hunter).






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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 18:54
I must have missed it. What gun is it? 

Wing master


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 18:56
Ruger red hawk 45 LC

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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 02 February 2022 at 19:00
Ok. I think you're going to like it. And its easier to load than a Black Hawk. 

Wing master


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 03 February 2022 at 09:28
Sorry I thought it was a blackHawk.  My comments might not apply.  The Black Hawk is  single action; while the redhawk is double action.  Have a Red Hawk in 41 mag. and a BlackHawk in 357.

The RedHawk uses Moon clips for the 45 acp and uses the same cylinder for the 45 LC and the 45ACP.  So I don't know what the extra cylinder is for??


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 03 February 2022 at 10:02
OK I have been wrong before Hahaha.
 It is in fact a "Black Hawk" single action.
The two Cylinders have a ledge, ring in side at different depth, I guessing that makes the difference in colt and auto. 
But a auto bullet is .451 and a colt is .454 correct?
The rear sight looks like it is held in by a Pin not screws. It is a 5.5" barrel the # is New Model, 48-53XXX the look up says it is not in production and was "Shipped in 2012.
Looks like fun project.Big smile


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 03 February 2022 at 20:30
It will be interesting to see if you hunt with it. 




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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 04 February 2022 at 08:50
Sounds like a Super Black Hawk (SBH).  good gun,  with the heavy built frame it will take heavy loads.  Should look nice reside the 45-70.

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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 04 February 2022 at 09:21
WinkI have not shot the 45/70 in a lot of years.
I should one day.
I do plan to hunt something with the colt, Not sure what yet. I'm a bad shot with a hand canon but maybe I'll do a red dot and see if that will help.
I have a dot I would just need the mount on the gun. 140 brass should get me started?
All my other guns I like to have 300 plus. the 6 I keep 300 loaded and 300 prepped. I only have around 350 in all for the 8mm, some are 375 H&H re shaped. Funny I can get them but not 8mmRM.
Now that I have an '06 I guess I'll have to start looking for it too.Shocked


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 04 February 2022 at 18:14
That's a good start but I don't think theirs such a thing as too much ammo or brass. 

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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 05 February 2022 at 09:19
Brass is like Oreo cookies .   You always need an equal number of cookies and milk.

Brass has to be equal to primers, and bullets.


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 05 February 2022 at 14:21
What hunting range is the .45 Colt good for with heavy Blackhawk loads?



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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 05 February 2022 at 15:19
?????????????? 
anyone else?Confused


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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 05 February 2022 at 23:11
daily....yes!

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Posted By: MapleHill
Date Posted: 06 February 2022 at 11:08
Dad has had a S&W 25 45LC for a number of years. We have not shot it very much, therefore, not loaded much for it. It is a factory mis-stamped pistol, it's marked Model 57, which was a 41Mag. He bought it years ago as a collector so it never got shot much. I have loaded some light plinkers for it using Unique and some 255 casts and JHP and 2400 I think. In a strong pistol, which the Blackhawk is about the strongest made, you can really push a 45LC. 


Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 06 February 2022 at 18:05
I went out and shot it today.
I shot 225's, 255's and 250's they, were cowboy loads and all factory loads. I don't know what kind of bullets but all lead. The CB where round nose, the other looked like a crayon that were 1/2 wore off.
I shot steel at 10 yards 5 sizes from 8" to 3".
I hit every time. properly 30 shots.
I shot a target at 100 yards and hit the 2'x3' backer every time and the printer paper target about half the time. Then some ice on the creek and a dirt bank at 93 yards seamed to hit about where I was aiming. 60 shot and I was very happy. Factory iron sights and the last 30 where off my rifle shooting sticks.
A red dot will be cool on it I'm sure.
I'm thinking a bunch of gophers will die...Clap


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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 07 February 2022 at 08:23
The reduced loads make shooting heavy caliber, much more accurate.  My 44, and 357 seldom see full loads except for whitetail.

congratulations. D


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Posted By: 788Fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2022 at 09:30
To close one question, with the short barrel, I limit my shots to 30-35 yard or so.  That's where I was comfortable and know the gun will hit in the heart/lungs with iron sights.  I know a lot of guys who are hunting with a 7 1/2" tube that will routinely shoot to 100 yards with optics.  Way beyond my comfort zone.  Stay safe.

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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 07 February 2022 at 10:18
One yee doesn't work any longer, the other is just poor.

So I have scopes on most of my pistols, wish I could use iron sights, easier to carry, simpler to get into action.

My hand cannon, 375, can and hss easily make whitetaail deer, one shot kills out to 150 yards.  That is using a waalking stick rest.  Gun could do better.

357 is limited to 50 yards on one shott kills.  The 44 can do 90+.

Sighting equipment is limited by eyesight and hold.  But the magnum handguns usually have enough power and accuracy for much farther.

Limit is me not the guns, or sights.

25 years ago (gosh, that seems like a long time ago) I had a 44 mag Ruger Super Black hawk witha 10 inch barrel.  With moderate hand loads shootin cast lead  semi-wadcutters, it was a 100 yard gun with open sights.  My eye would never let me do that today.


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 07 February 2022 at 14:41

https://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Scope-Mount-Ruger-Blackhawk/dp/B000KOQ3VG" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Scope-Mount-Ruger-Blackhawk/dp/B000KOQ3VG



I think this is the mount I need.

This is the dot I have.

https://www.amazon.com/DB-TAC-Green-Reflex-Reticles/dp/B07LC4WY5C" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.com/DB-TAC-Green-Reflex-Reticles/dp/B07LC4WY5C

Compatible with a 45 LC black hawk 6 1/2 in barrel?



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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 09 February 2022 at 10:13
I ordered LEE 90359 .452 DIAMETER 300 GRAIN 2-CAVITY BULLET MOLD C452-300-RF $35 Free freight on eBay.
I also ordered Weigand Combat Scope Mount Compatible with Ruger Blackhawk scope mount for my red dot.

I have 150 pounds of bullet lead from a range to cast, It's hard lead, and gas checks.
Red dot powder, green dot, 2400 and CCI large pistol primers, and 180 once fired brass, asst headstamps.

It looks like in a week or two I'll have target pictures.Shocked


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 09 February 2022 at 21:06
I'm looking forward to seeing the targets. 

Are you going to hunt with cast bullets?


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Posted By: Go-ddaed
Date Posted: 10 February 2022 at 03:34

150#’s sounds like a lot but is only 3500 300gr bullets. 


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 10 February 2022 at 08:00
Originally posted by Go-ddaed Go-ddaed wrote:


150#’s sounds like a lot but is only 3500 300gr bullets. 

We have about that much 99% lead too.
I use it for lead TT shot. We will have to get some antimony now . We cast 9mm's too and jig heads and decoy weights.


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 12 February 2022 at 14:28
The Rail I ordered fit prefect.
The dot I had fit prefect.
It would be Prefect if it was black.
Going in the morning to see if it works.
PS 
The 300 gr mold came today the checks will be here Monday.

Big smileClap



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Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 13 February 2022 at 04:18
Looks good.   expect some muzzle rise with max loads.

Need to take it and 4 cans of sardines out bear hunting.


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 13 February 2022 at 16:53
I did some more testing!
 I got the dot on and went to shoot.
 NICE.
Shooting factory loads 255 gr cowboy loads.
Shooting at 25 yards off a bench.
After zeroing it the boy and I where getting very nice 4 to 5 inch 6 shot groups.
I put the acp cylinder in and shot several different loads, all shot well but non shot as wall as the full length colt loads.
PS 
 My fix on the 6mm scope bases worked out GREAT.
back to sup 1 inch at 200 yards with the Pdog loads, 55 gr varmageddon's Nosler 55 gr , 4200 fps.
The new Burris works great on the 8mm.
One group with 220 sierras ( 3100 fps rl26) at 100 was 5/8".Clap
 




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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 13 February 2022 at 21:40
Sounds like they are all coming together. 

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Posted By: 788Fan
Date Posted: 15 February 2022 at 08:09
That slight difference in bore diameter will degrade the accuracy.  The ACP rounds with the 451 head "rattle" a bit in a 454 barrel.  

788


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 15 February 2022 at 08:21
That's what we found, VERY little cost difference between the two when you reload and cast.

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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 28 February 2022 at 13:55
OK
 I have a load that I can shoot comfortable and hit a 7" plate at 25 yards, constantly. 
My 300 gr gas checked cast, It should be going out of the 5.5" barrel at 1200 fps. I'm using my heliographic red dot it's about 1.5" over the bore.
It is zeroed at 75 feet, with the stated plate, not paper but it was 20 shot all hitting the plate.
Anyway I want to shoot deer ( and hogs one day). 
I want to use it to 100 yards, what would the drop be? How much energy would be left? What would be the penetration of a hard cast 300 gr out there?
All new stuff to me.




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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 03 March 2022 at 19:24
That's way above my head but I gotta say that's pretty impressive. 

That big hunk of lead has to be packing qiute a wallop.


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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 12 March 2022 at 18:43
I went out today with new Hogue grips, and the gong.
With my 303 gr hard cast bullets with a copper gas check and powder coat sized to .452 and Winchester w-296 someplace close to 1200 fps or a bit more.
I'm getting about 2 to 2.5" at 30 yards.
I shot off my hunting sticks I use with my rifle, sitting down.
At 15 yards I'm center punching clay pigeons with little to no aim point adjustments, up or down, standing off hand.
I have only shot 85 shells so far through the gun, will it improve like a rifle?
I plan to shoot deer with it at some point but would sight it into 100 yards for that.
For now, it's steel, gophers, and coyotes. What do you think I can expect out at 100 yards?Big smile


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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 12 March 2022 at 21:00
That's impressive. 

I'm thinking that even at 100 yards it will hit a deer as hard as a Suburban at 55 mph


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Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 12 March 2022 at 22:15
New bodied suburban or old body style?

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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 13 March 2022 at 20:47
I've heard the old body style hits em pretty hard. 

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