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Buff lotto

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Topic: Buff lotto
Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Subject: Buff lotto
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 10:57
Anyone going to put in for it besides me?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/skilled-shooters-help-thin-grand-canyon-bison-herds-193123263.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.yahoo.com/news/skilled-shooters-help-thin-grand-canyon-bison-herds-193123263.html


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!



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Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 11:25
I'm in !!!!!Big smile
We did a free range bison hunt one year.
 We are talking FUN!!!!


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Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 11:32
Sounds good but.......hunters capable of hiking eight miles a day, carrying a 60-pound pack and hitting a paper plate 200 yards away five times.

Shooting is no problem......eight mile a day on flat land OK  add the 60 # pack and I'm out!


Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 20:03
Bear, 

If you put in for it and are picked I am willing to go with you and carry your pack. I'll help carry out the meat. Since it said the indians get the head and hide I figure they can carry that out themselves. 

Just a thought, 

Wing master


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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 20:50
Might work.  Figure they make the hunter get our the meat/head/hide...then hand it over to the tribe?


Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 21:21
Probably so, but I will help with that. 

Sounds like a great time. 

Wing master


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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 12 September 2017 at 23:39
did any of you catch this?????  Means finding a lead free bullet for your caliber and a new load and sight in too.

The reduction plan would allow volunteers working in a team with a Park Service employee to shoot bison using non-lead ammunition to protect endangered California condors that feed on gut piles.


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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 13 September 2017 at 06:40
That is why Barnes is in business.

I could load up some 338 mag with  Hornady  185 GMX.  the 9.3x62   250gr GMX would be good out to about 200 yds on the big cows.

Or  a challenge with a 270 gr  GMX in my 375 pistol?

lots of options.




HOW DOES ONE APPLY???????????????????????????/


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 13 September 2017 at 09:13
Do "they" make a 405 gr or 530 gr .458 lead-free bulletQuestion 

It would be most fitting to use a Sharps or even a Rolling Block or Trapdoor or 1885 Win (in my case a BPCR) with BP to boot. Crossed sticks and tang sights!

THAT would be a "Buffalo" hunt!


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Irish Bird Dog

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2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 13 September 2017 at 13:54
I ain't got none of them things!!!


Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 13 September 2017 at 13:59
The D-I-L 338/378 will down a Buff and they use a 250 TSX FB Barnes.
And like 98 gr RL22, I think, and 2900 fps.
The boy shot his Bison with my 45/70 and a 300 Barnes TSX FN.

50 gr of AA 1680,close to 2400 fps.

Shocked


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Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box


Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 13 September 2017 at 22:35
It would be cool to harvest a Buffalo with a Sharps. 

Wing master


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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 13 September 2017 at 23:28
YOU get it Wing......with BP and crossed sticks and buckskins....

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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 14 September 2017 at 22:39
Ya know....I have been itchin to get my ole Bear recurve out of mothballs


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 00:06
ya know...I too have an 'ole Bear recurve stashed away someplace....no moth balls tho...what we gunna do with them?????.....Confused

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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 06:56
We shootsta boofawo wit em!

I have two of them. a 45 and a 55. No pins, no weights, nuffin! Just lotsa practice and goin old school....sorta.Wink


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 07:19
I've got a great Browning recurve, getting a little long in tooth.


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 07:55
Just turn your head a bit more to the side and it won't get caught on the string!

Choot em like us blessed imjuns did....then again, after a quick look at broadheads and shafts, my .375 ammo is looking cheap.


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 08:35
pulling this thread back to the original theme...Bison Lotto application for special hunt....

One of the criteria to get accepted is a 200yd shooting accuracy requirement.....now it has been said injuns used to kill "buffalo" aka Bison with a bow & arrow system so maybe it can be done....however, it would be tuff to meet the 200yd accuracy criteria of the program I'd guess.Confused


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Irish Bird Dog

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2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 09:12
still need to know how we apply, especially as I now have a volunteer pack carrier.

Sort of glad they take the meat...too much  for me and wife.  20# would seem fair to keep.


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 14:39
Hell, I'll even drive you there Bear! Gonna do some research on it.


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 20:10
Here is a bit more to the story./history of buffalo in Grand Canyon Nat'l Park.....don't think they are any wheres near ready to begin the "lotto".

http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/07/03/grand-canyon-bison-hunt" rel="nofollow - http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/07/03/grand-canyon-bison-hunt


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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 15 September 2017 at 21:29
Emailed them today for info and show of interest.

Questions to bounce off you guys,
1) How many of you want to go for a buff?
2) If enough wish to participate, do we go for the entire cull and make a deal for a few hides and a cow or two for meat?
3) Seems they want to do this between Oct. and May in the high Arizona snow caps, so do we want to do this the week before MYGAWDS and just make the loop?

Lotsa questions and input would be appreciated for when they reply, how to respond.

J


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 16 September 2017 at 08:25
Good luck negotiating with the government, especially when natives are involved.

But I'm in.

Bet it won't happen till 2019 or later.  this release seems to be a "run it up the flag pole, and see if it flies".


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 16 September 2017 at 09:19
Could be, but I'm part Sioux, might be able to play the card a bit for negotiating. Never got any affiliation setup before, but I can always pull out some records and do the ancestry DNA thing if it helps. It'll piss off my family thats kinda kept that part away from view, but that was all in the past when some looked down on the aboriginals more. I'm not the least bit prejudiced as I hate everyone equally, so I really don't care. If it gets us into the buffy's, it's worth it. Doesn't hurt to help them raise the flag abit, so I'll just keep the buzz in their ear and see if it takes.

Just would help to know what everyone thinks as to the hunt.


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!


Posted By: BEAR
Date Posted: 16 September 2017 at 09:50
As I said count me in ke-mo sah-bee..


Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 18 September 2017 at 22:20
Count me in.  Hunting or just packing. 

I'm pretty good friends with the guy at work that makes the schedule. I'm pretty sure I can get time off. 

Wing master


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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.


Posted By: jsgbearpaws1
Date Posted: 27 September 2017 at 04:22
Heads up, still waiting for park service to make a move in any direction. I'll keep everyone in the loop as to any progress or correspondence.


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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!



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