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The_Mountaineer
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Topic: Leupold VX II vs. Weaver Grand Slam Posted: 23 December 2003 at 08:57 |
Well gang,
I've decided to get me a decent scope for my 7 STW and narrowed it down to these two
The Weaver Grand Slam 4.5-14 X with fully multi-coated lenses
Or the Leupold VX II 4-12 X with only Multi-Coated Lenses
There isn't any difference in price really but the Weaver does have the Fully multi Coated Lenses whereas the Leupold doesn't.
What say the jury?
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tj3006
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Posted: 28 December 2003 at 06:35 |
Tuff choice !
Based strictly on the Quality of the scope. I am a Leupold guy But I have a healthy respect for the Grand slam line. It seems to me that leupold has legendary customer service in there corner, and one other thing to concider. The weaver is made in Japan. That is not a reflection on Quality, and if you clearly prefer the Weaver by all means buy it, but if you have much dout, then reward the leupold managment for keeping there production facilities here in the USA. Here in Oregon we have lots of outdoor relateed companies, located here Besideds Leupold , we have Warn Gerber Kershaw uncle mikes bench made danner nosler Leathrman and lots of others. Most of the knife companies(not leatherman) have sent there production facilities over seas and just do warehousing and light assembely work here but Leupold leatherman and warn Are loyal to the Americn worker I think the others would like to be but simply cant compete price wise. It is up to the consumer (thats us) to give them a reason to stay here. If your fellow american is doing a great job then help him keep it !
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jayrando
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Posted: 28 December 2003 at 08:56 |
fully multi coated? Do the optics look equal? Multi coating is better if both sides are done if this is what they mean by fully multicoated however it does decrease light xmisssion by a litttle bit. SO which one is brighter to your eyes that is what determines it of me.
J
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CB900F
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Posted: 28 December 2003 at 12:11 |
Mountaineer;
I've got one of each. The Vari X II is a 3X9 50mm matte & the Grand Slam is a 3.5X10 50mm in silver. The Loopy is about 8 years old & the Weaver is 6 months old.
There's not a lot of difference between them. I bought what I did, when I did, based more on price & availablility than anything else. In other words, if somebody's got a helluva deal on one or the other, that's the one I'd go with again.
900F
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The_Mountaineer
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Posted: 28 December 2003 at 12:23 |
Thanks guys,
I'm really leaning towards the Weaver, just to give it a try. Haven't bought a Weaver in quite some time, about 15 years, for a rifle and wanted to see if they were as good as they say. Leupold is by far my favorite and probably always will be for as long as they retain their value and quality over the other companies out there. Looks like I'll be ordering that one in a week or two when I get back to my favorite dealer.
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The_Mountaineer
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Posted: 06 January 2004 at 06:07 |
Well I ordered the Weaver Grand Slam and got it for about $286.00, about $60 cheaper than most places. Now that I've got my Winchester Model 70 STW painted (by myself of course) I think that this Weaver will really add a touch of class to an already fine rifle. Then it will be off to the range in search of that mysterious one-hole group.
I'll post some pics when I get everything put together.
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Guests
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Posted: 06 January 2004 at 06:47 |
I relly think the wording is only different and the coatings are identical. People are always loking to sell something that is already there as a positive feature.
Remember when Bayer asperin was some as "....having the ingredient that Doctors recommend most". Well that ingredient was 'asperin'. The same asperin that all asperin contains by law. But millions of users boought Bayer at a premium.
I would not make any decision based upon "Fully multi-coated" and Multicoated".
I thought the new Weavers were made in Korea not Japan???????
BEAR
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 11 January 2004 at 01:33 |
OPTICAL COATING TYPES
Optical coatings reduce reflection both internally and externally and thereby increase the amount of light that reaches the eye which improves brightness and contrast.
Coated: Lens surfaces are coated to improve light transmission capability.
Fully Coated: All air-to-glass surfaces are coated.
Multi-Coated: One or more surfaces or lenses have been coated with multiple films and all surfaces are coated at least once.
Fully Multi-Coated: All air-to glass surfaces have multiple films.
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The_Mountaineer
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Posted: 12 January 2004 at 05:56 |
Thanks Tas,
I was looking for the issue of "American Hunter" that covered those different defining breakdowns for the "coating code" and couldn't find it.
Fully Mult-Coated are the most expensive but also the clearest. Though unless you're gonna hunt during low-light conditions you don't need them. The multi-coated lenses are best suited for well lighted conditions like varmint hunting at modest ranges. According to the author of the article anyways.
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