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    Posted: 22 December 2004 at 14:32

I missed last season after I broke some ribs and had a pretty bad upper back injury along with  that accident.I probably could have bow hunted this season but with no stick time and a still nagging back injury I did not want to chance it.My question is what types of exercise would you all suggest to get back into shooting form?My old 80 pound Trophy Magnum is screaming for me to get off my ass and shoot it.......I have an old Dave Howatt 55 lb recurve I`ve used to bowhunt and bowfish both with.I am thinking maybe I should start off shooting it and see what happens regarding the injury.?I can set my compound back down to 70 pounds or lower if need be...Thoughts fellas?

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There's a few ways to work the shoulder like that.

Take a dumbell (15 to 20lbs) set it next to a chair use your left arm and lean over at 90 degrees and use your left arm to hold your torso straight and horizontal to the ground.  Now lean over and pick up the weight and let it hang off the end of your arm.  In one motion lift the weight directly up in a path that your arm is until it touches your chest then let it down.  Do it 10 times, 3 sets. 

  Find the starting weight first with a 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 25,... weight at a sporting store and when you can do those 3 sets move up to the next increment.  For a bow move your elb the same way you do when you draw back.

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Some years back, I had a slight disagreement with a horse about which direction we should go. I ended up with a badly wrecked shoulder, and it took several moths to start feeling half way normal.

I wanted to shoot the bow, but the pain was way too much with the weight I could turn my old compound down to. My traditional equipment was a no-go from the start. I went to the local archery shop, and had them change out the wheels on the compound to the lightest possible, and cranked out the limbs are far as possible. I started shooting a few a day, and would work up to where I could shoot at least twenty arrows with out too much discomfort. I would then crank the poundage up more. After about two months, I pegged out on adjustment. I then went back to the pro shop, and upgraded the wheels again, relieved the limbs, and started in again. Bt the end of another two months, I was pulling this one pegged out, and killed an elk with it that season. I continued shooting at the upper setting, and started inside league that December. After i had shot a couple rounds, the pro wanted to check my bow out, as it seemed real fast. He figured I was shooting some light shafts. As it turned out, he pulled it on the scale, and I had worked up to 136 pounds on the bow. I wish he had never told me that, as then I went from being able to splinter nocks, to having the shakes, and started lowering my poundage. Stupid of me, as I could pull it easily, shoot with good accuracy, and had confidence in it.

Anyway, it is entirely possible to work back into it. Just take your time. Work through pain, but not extreme pain.

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Thanks for the info fellas.Spot, the weights idea sounds pretty good.I was thinking too that I should try some form of weight training.

Waksupi, thanks for  your advice.I have been kind of scared to pick up this old compound.I used to take it to the archery shop in Belton and shoot for hours with guys shooting light poundage compounds.Now though, it is a very different story.I am going to give it a try and if it bothers me too much,I will take it in and get it turned down as you describe.I sure miss bowhunting,  it was probably my favorite type of hunting.I am gonna see if I can rectify the situation though.Thanks for the tips fellas.

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Timber, have you ever tried your bow & arrows on a yote?  Gettin' them to come in close enough might be a challenge, but I bet you can do it.    I hope you're able to shoot it again, pain free, before to long.   GR
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Hey GR..I never have tried a bow on yotes.I`ve thought about it ,but...never did and after this mess with my back I would be happy just to be in deer hunting condition by next season.I really enjoy rifle hunting,but there is no thrill like hunting hogs or deer with a bow.GR...I have called them to well within bow range on occasion.Someday I will tell you all how I missed a yote at 15 feet with a rifle,not once but twice..lol.No kidding,I did it and have two witnesses that were scared to shoot because he was too close to me.Thats another time though....

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dumbell rows, bent over barbell rows, and a move called a cuban press will help get your shoulders and back in shape for drawing a bow. The cuban press is easier with a barbell. Find a light one like 15 or 20 lb. It works some really small muscles that stabilize the shoulder. The start position is with your upper arm parallel to the ground and the lower arm 90 degrees to that. That means you're gripping the bar at just over shoulder width and it's just in front of your forehead. Slowly lower the bar forward and down keeping your upper arms parallel to the gound, it's a rotating motion, until it's level with your chest and then rotate it back up.

Only working your back will cause problems in the long run so some bench press or other chest exercises need to be done to keep things in balance.

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Hey SteelyEyes...Thanks for your tips with the weights.I have started doing a little weight work with a 10 pound weight and I am doing the classic military pushup in repetititions of 10 for 50 a day.I am still having some discomfort with the pushups but doing ok with the weights in repetition.You don`t know how bad out of shape you are till you start trying to get back in shape.I am going to stick with it though.I hope to be able to fill my Buck tag next year with my bow.Thanks for the tips fellas...I appreciate it.

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Gene,

The key is what ever you do START LIGHT, and don't over do in the beginning.

I have some thin rubber ribbons about 3" wide.  This is very light (poundage) stuff, made for women to 'work out' with.  They fold up into pocket size.  But you can duplicate the exact movement of drawing a bow wiht them (only lighter).  Makes it easy to carry with you so you can exercise 10-20 times a day without the need for those weights.  I don't remember where I got them.

There is also the old type of spring chest exerciser that I use.  You add springs as you move up.  Again it is an exact duplicate of the draw of a bow.

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AS I'm sure you know.  You can work/exercise your back for two hours a day, gently getting it back in shape.  Then pull it out in 2 seconds doing what seems like nothing.   Take it easy buddy.  get well.Wink

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Hey Bear..Will do on that advice.I`m taking it pretty easy.I bought me a set of 15lb dumb bells today and I have one of those 5 rubber band stretch  things from Academy sports.That thing has helped me immensely.I dont know so far as for strength , but it has let me be able to stretch  those muscles in my upper back fairly well.I still use it at least once a day.I will take it easy.I want to be out there in the field with you all next year and arrow me a good buck..Thanks for the tips..much appreciated.

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Gene,

Those Academy things are what I was trying to say.  Start small...work up to heavy.  I'm using a crosbow this year but expect to try to use my 42# Browning recurve for next season.  All that power isn't necessary, wish my 42 was my old 36 # semi-recurve.

go for it.

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Fellas.I shot for the first time today in public at the indoor range.60 shots in 6 shot strings spaced out about two hours.I was shootin a life size Javelina target at 20 yards with fingers and cat hair tabs on my 80 pound compound.I put 52 arrows in him with five in the head ,still pinching my nocks a bit.I missed 8 times with 2 grazes I count as a miss.It sure felt good guys.I bought me a bowflex and have been on it off and on since I posted this.It started hurting me a bit in my upper spine and left shoulder at about 50 shots and I figured I better quit for today but I was so stoked I went and bought me another dozen new arrows...For anybody who has never bowhunted it is hard to describe the feeling of I will be able to hunt again with my bow....I am one happy camper this day...

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I myself have back problems and for the back i would recommend stretching. I been to physio and chiros and popped tylenol and percacet like candy but ive found that stretching has helped the most even massage therapy can do some good.

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