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    Posted: 31 August 2004 at 00:00

Hey, do they make different scaboards for Levers vs. Bolts or are they all the same?  I guess the same question goes for Scopes... Do over scoped wonder gun's not fit in some scabords?

  Just wonder'n if it wouldn't be a bad idear to get yer own scaboard for hunting so you don't have to worry about using one that might not fit your rifle well.

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There are two basic styles, ( we are talking leather here) with variations in each.One is for scoped rifles, the other is for not.

The ones that are made for non scoped rifles will just about fit any lever rifle made. Some have a cut out that will accept bolt handles , but not many. I have two . One that is pretty small and meant to accept a Model 94 or similar action.The other is a might bigger and will accept about anything, including muzzle loaders.

For scoped rifles,It is hard to find one that will accept the really big objective lens on scopes that are not only big in diameter, but stand off the barrel a lot higher. For regular sized scopes and barrels up to 26 " , you can find good leather scabbords.They come,with just a strap, to hold the gun in, with a slot cut for the bolt, or a flap that covers the butt of the stock,and keeps the gun in, or a separate boot that slips down over the butt end of the scabbord and is kept in place with straps and buckles.

I prefer the fold over flap. It provided some protection from crud getting in. With the boots, you are always fiddling, trying to find a palce to put the boot , when you need to get the rifle  out.

I don't like the nylon ones,as I don't think they provide as much protection as good heavy leather one, and I don't like the fleece lined ones as they are too hard to dry out in wet weather. I have never had rifles freeze to al eather scabbord, but have seen some become pretty stuck in a fleece lined one that was wet and foroze with the rifle still in it.

Besides, nylon belongs on a woman's leg, leather belongs on a horse or mule.

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I have one good scabbard. It's nylon. It's heavy nylon on the outside, closed cell neopreme in the middle and surgical fleece on the inside. It's the only scabbard I've seen that keeps the horse sweat (the invisible kind like a fog) from getting to the metal on the gun, condensing, and eating the finish. I've had to reblue my Sako once already and I noticed it's got some spots on it again because of that problem.

My wife made the scabbard a long time ago. It totally encloses the rifle like a good gun case, it's padded and protects it well. I had her make it when I couldn't find a good one for my overscoped wonder gun.

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I like the plain leather scabbards, you can see them listed for sale in several different places. Just have to follow saddlesores advise on them, and find the one that will fit your rifle.
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Hey you two,

   Who's got good prices & quality ?  Do you look for a brand name? or do you just go with a special shop? 

Ain't now where around flat land kansas that I can think of gett'n myself a scaboard... If I ever rent a hoss or mule to pack out I might need one.

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 Check with www.valleyvet.com  I think they're in Marysville. I order tac and vet supplies from them, also Cabela's carries some, and any good saddle shop ought to be able to get you one.
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Saddlesore, and guy's,

  65 bucks ain't bad for a nice leather scaboard.  I hadn't thought about the fleece lining bein an issue.  Good info.

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Another thing - on scabbards with a flap, which is the only kind to get IMHO, watch out for button snaps.  They refuse to stay closed when the rifle is a tight fit and tend to come apart (snap falls out of leather) at the least convenient time.  Cabelas makes a great scoped rifle scabbard with a rock solid flap closure for around $120.
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I took my snap off for that very reason. I put in al eather thong loop, and then cut a botton out of an elk horn,that the loop goes around.
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I find that the ones for bolt rifles fit big bore levers with pistol grips better than the narrow ones made for lever guns.  My M71 works real good in a standard bolt action scabbard, and the flap keeps the butt from getting wet and draining into the action.  Leather ones wear the blueing a lil', but that adds character in my book.  I don't like the nylon ones.  They never get that certain smell quite right.  Sure, the horse sweat an' foam soaks into 'em eventually, but it needs leather to really get the scent that keeps me sniffin' the inside of leg all day after riding.
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Don't ever get a scabbard that puts the butt of the rifle to the rear of the animal.  You'll be goin' uphill & it WILL fall outta the scabbard.

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CB900. I have carried my rifle with butt rearward for over 25 years without a problem. You just need to have them adjusted  at the right angle. If you are a little worried, take the saddle tie strings and secure the rifle with them. Also, usually the saddle bags are over the butt and end of scabbard, giving it a little more protection.

The problems with butt forward is:  if your mount should decide to get too close to a tree,  It may get hung up  with the butt of the rifle on one side and the mount on the other. The other thing is that with the butt forward, you have to slide the rifle out past the mounts head. This usually isn't a problem, but in the heat of  the chase  looking at a big 6x bull, when jumping off, you tend to move too fast and jump around, jerk the rifle. The horse's head comes up, it's eyes get big and he pulls back on the reins/lead rope. You can be left there with you rifle half out, the horse running down the mountain, and the elk standing there laughing at you.

I didn't figure this all out from being overly smart, but I do remember my mistakes and learn from them

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Saddlesore,

   I got the catalog in the mail this week.

Once my wife gets over all the "Sprint" bought Nextel so we have to worry about who's who's job for a while (save money), I'll pick up my Scaboard and saddlebags.

  Good Catalog BTW.

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To each their own, I'll not argue with you.  I'm sure we've each found different solutions to the problem.  Elmer & I will simply remain on the other side of the fence. 

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