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    Posted: 23 August 2004 at 06:03
Come on guys, I know Macca's got a NF, at least I think he does, but the $1200 tag is a little more than I can do. Thanks to Dead dog I can't use price as much of a reason anymore. But between a Burris Signature Select and a Bushy Elite 4200, what would you choose and why. I like the burris idea, keep the US business. Spec wise they are very close, both are big and heavy, the elite has a little better eye relief. I could have sworn someone here had and elite 8-32, maybe not. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 10:22
Sorry BK,  I for one can't help you out on this one as the most power I've got is the Weaver V 6-24.  I do look foreward to hearing what you have to say about the Burris or Bushnell you end up getting.  One day I'd like to get a scope in that power range and price range. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 10:31

bk- i posted a review in the past about the big burris... it is an ok scope if it was several hundred dollars less.

optically, it is fair, at best. the turrets on it feel much like toys. haven't had a chance to work w/ the bushnell you speak of, but knowing what i know of the burris, i would rather take a chance and buy the bushnell blind than buy the burris. too bad, really, because it just might be the best looking varmint scope on the market... but, cosmetics will only get you in the door.

i know you are anti-leupold, but for the money, you need to be comparing the big zeiss and the big leupold. both are much better than the burris.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 10:32

   I'm not getting into this  

        

   But I do have a 6x18x38 that I like quite abit.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 10:32
btw- you need less magnification on good, crisp glass than you do on second-rate glass...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 11:39
Damn it, I was actually thinking of getting a loopy ofr another rifle, now I can't because of my new avatar, hmmm........oh well. I hadn't considered myself anti-loopy, I just don't think they are 'the' scope. I hashed it out between a 6-24 and a 8-32, for the slight $$ diff I would really like to go with the 8-32. If loopy made a 8-32 I would consider it, but even a good 6-24 in a loopy will be above my expected budget.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 12:01

no...you're approaching this wrong, i think.

have you ever tried shooting w/ a scope on 24x or above? if you have, then you know how brutal the mirage can be. i spent a lot of time w/ the 8-32 burris... it really isn't what you want to have on a varminter or target rifle. if leupold isn't that good as far as you are concerned, then i guarantee you will be disappointed in the big burris... i didn't work w/ the smaller burris - perhaps it is better. but the big burris was a huge disappointment to me. i really wanted that scope on my 1000 yard rifle because of its killer looks, but it wound up out of contention.

like i said, given your choices, the bushnell looks the best... but, you really need to go compare the big zeiss and the 8.5-25 leupold if you are looking at spending that kind of money.

remember that ultra-high magnification may not be the answer, and when you are shooting tiny targets at long range, there are tons of issues that come up that aren't apparent on the average 3-9x deerwhacker special.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 12:34
Dakota, maybe I am I don't know. I just went back and read your shotout, I had forgotten about it. Dead dog can get me a great price on the Burris, its the Signature Select, not the Black Diamond though, and its well under $500. I figure there will be issues with mirage which is why I want a variable, it can always be turned down, I did mention this in the other post maybe you didn't see this. But for the few days when mirage wouldn't be an issue I could turn it up and take advantage of it. Or is there tha chance that turning up beyond the 20's will be a very rare event due to mirage?? I do not have a lot of time behind high power glass so maybe it will be more persistant than I think. I do get it quite often with my 6-18, but maybe 50% of the time. By all means educate me on the subject. I have time to plan all of this so I would like to know all I can before I try getting into longer range stuff. I could get a 6.5-20 loopy for about the same price, do you really think this would be a better choice in the long run?? You do have me really thinking now.

Also, it's not that I don't think Loopy is bad at all, I just don't want to look at them as being the only scope worth anything, I'm weird in a reverse psychological way, kind of tend to use what I'm told not to just to see. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 15:23

BK,  do you ever go out shooting early in the morning?  That's when the long range guys around here do it.  Hardly any mirage at early hours.  (These guys usually have a 12X scope, at 550 yards, and I can't even see that far, or at least I like to have a scope that let's me see the friggin' target like it's close up)

I'm usually out later in the day, and my 6-24 Weaver has to be turned down to at least 18X to see fairly clear.  I have the Leupold 6.5-20LRT and it is real good.  I also have the Nightforce 5.5-22x56 and it's great, but yes, it costs a lot.  Still, if there's heavy mirage and barrel heat, I have to turn them all down a little to get a clear picture. 

I'd suggest that if you can't afford one of the better high power scopes, get a slightly lower power of a very good quality.  Like Dakatasin says, the ultra-high power may not be the answer.  Sure I'd like to have one, but when I use the ones I have I wonder if I'd be able to use that higher magnification at the times of day I shoot.  Or maybe anytime, for that matter.

I think mostly it depends on what you will use it for, and what time of day it will be used.    If you can, go to a store that has one of the scopes you want, and look through it in the afternoon, out the front windows or even outside if they'll let you, at some long range objects.  It might give you an idea of what you're buying. 

Unfortunately on some of this stuff, it's a crapshoot.  Best of luck. 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2004 at 21:11

BK in all honest 1 power for each hundred yards you shoot at game is enough and 2 power for each hundred yards is adequate for most target and varmit.3 power and above is mostly benchrest needs.

A good 20 or 24/25 will do most of what most people want.

Mirage can be dealt with if you practice a lot.One of the best shooters I come up against uses a Weaver 36 power fixed.He shoots through the mirage and does very well(too well for me somedays)

I get maybe 5 shots sometimes less before mirage hits the 32 power.Turning down helps but if you are aiming off and not clicking it has to be taken into account.

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