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Topic: Parallax & focus - non AO Posted: 23 February 2004 at 12:40
I'm cheap and would love to step up to some higher quality galss, but decent stuff is out of my price range, especially right now. Who has something in the 3-9 or 3/4-12 range that is not an AO? Can you focus well out to 300,400,500??? Does Parallax become a big issue with good glass? A little I could deal with, but if it starts shifting a few moa at distances I'll hold out. Any other comments on similar topics would be appreciated.
I had thought of possibly going with a rifleman, but even though they carry the warranty I've found a few online tests that didn't pass it, even many failures. One head to head test rated it below Bushnell and Simmons in quality and ruggedness, in fact their test model broke after 30 rounds on a 300 WSM, maybe a fluke, maybe not. I still think that top end cheap glass is better than low end expensive glass, but what say thee?
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As always like the Leupold VarX-2, sort of mid-priced I guess. I've got about 12 of them, some 1-4x, 2-7x and 3-9. I've never had a problen with the varx-2. And I use them on 338s and 416 mags, for thousands of rounds. The rear adjsutment is to adjust parallax out. I adjust it for infinity, set it and forget it. No realy parrallax problems.
I also have some Bushnell aka Baush & Lomb elite 4000 and 4200s, again a midpriced scope. I like the 4-16x 50 mm 4200, it has an objective adjustment and gathers lots of light, it is my dusk scope. I also used it for night hunting leopards, together with a rechargable spot light for 100+ yd shooting, worked fine.
i would recommend either of these to you. I really don't see the Riflemean scope as for about $20 more you can get a Varx-2.
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Posted: 24 February 2004 at 01:37
Hey Bk, i havent had any problems with my VX1. They make a 4-12. You should check one out. Not quite as clear and crisp as a VX2, but pretty darn close!
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Posted: 24 February 2004 at 01:52
Rear adjustment for parallax? Shouldn't that just be a rear focus, but maybe, I don't know. But still, set on infinity you never run into focus problems with it?
NH, not sure I want the friction adjustments as it is what I have now and it does make it a bit of a pain when you want to make minor adjustments now and then.
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Posted: 02 March 2004 at 12:44
The rear adjustment on scopes is for focus only. Now, what do you focus? The rear focus (set at the factory) is for focusing the cross hairs. Yes, it is possible to screw up the actual focus, but not always. This would be a rare thing to do. Parallex on non adjustable scopes, is adjusted at the factory too, and there isn't much you can do about it, except, with the better scope makers, send it back with a description of the problem. Now, parallex, what is it exactly? Lots of guys have lots of explanations, but the real explanation is, when you have an object in your scope, look at the object. It should be clear and crisp. Now, without moving the rifle(preferably in sand bags) move your face a little. If things shift behind what the cross hairs are settled on, THAT is parallex. Under normal circumstances, this isn't a major problem, just a point for nitpicking. Over years of use and recoil, it will matter greatly though as reticles and lenses loosen. THEN it becomes a major problem. Personally, through shooting a lot, I have blown reticles out and had them flop around inside the tube, but fortunately, I also have good glass and the repair centers handle ALL my problems as soon as they get the scope. A lot is being made of parallex, but it's not the major problem with any scope. I have worked on rifles with the lock nut backed all the way off. I look through the scope, and am always amazed at the "furry cross hairs" that these guys are seeing. I ask them about it, and am always told, "If you can do anything with it, I'll pay you for it." Of course they don't pay and I never ask for it, but they always leave satisfied.....................Kingpin
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