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d4570
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Posted: 14 July 2013 at 14:58 |
What the heck is a "Denning Tree"
Come on guys a little help please not just funny remarks. I read an article on calling raccoons in the day. It sounded like something I want to try. Raccoons are relatively new here ( same with turkey) like in the last 20 or 30 years, now there all over Raccoons anyway. We see there tracks along the rivers and out in the AG lands. We have trapped them with "Cuff" traps and marshmallows as bait, but there 100% nocturnal. The coons do hibernate up here so winter shooting is all but out. End of September and the first few week in November is all we would have when there in prime, that's when we trap them after that we NEVER see any sigh of them. I want to try it like now so we can have a plan when they get worth some bucks. The article said old homestead and fallen in barns are good too as long as there not to far underground to hear the call. But I don't have a clue what I need to look for. We can spot light them but on one of out rivers at night may be the last thing you would ever do. There is NO help along the way and it's a LONG way between access points and the water is NEVER warm. I never thought after 50+ year of hunting and I'm a NEWBIE, Wat Up Wit Dat? What should I be looking for, remember no snow and most likely rock hard dirt around the trees. Please help there is coons to be shot... |
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RobertMT
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Look in cottonwood flats along river. You want to find rotten one, with hollow cavity. They can be up high or near bottom, depending on predators. They also make nest like squirrel up in tree. If old hay stacks or brush piles, near water and food, could find them there. What your looking for, is where they can lay up during day. I've never called them, I have hunted them though. I read same article, it seemed like territorial call, was being used. You should be able to find trails they use, since you know where they feed.
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Irish Bird Dog
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...."Denning Tree"....not per Webster's umpteenth edition....
1. a place for a cubscout den to meet in or under 2. place fer ra'coon(s) to meet and copulate ra' kunes.....Hunting with hounds in the fall & look for cornfields not far from water as night time feeding grounds.....they will be there even if you don't have hounds but you will have to chase them yer own self....iffen you ain't tuffer than yer boy that is....otherwise he can chase 'em to you....maybe scare up a bar' or two also.... |
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d4570
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YUP, Here we go!
Thanks for the tip. If I find some hound dawgs to hunt over I'll look up there nearest corn field, Probable south Dakota, Ha Ha Ha... I want to hunt'm NOW not in the fall Hoping to be calling Wolf then. PS you do know he (the boy)has already caught by hand in the wild a Canada goose and an antelope fawn .A slow raccoon or even a lumbering bear should be no problem... |
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You might not want to catch, a full grown one, by hand. I've pulled a couple off dogs, in the water, you get done looking at them pretty quick.
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Irish Bird Dog
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ra'coon story time....as invincible teenagers a friend and I once shagged a small raccoon out of a tree....I climbed up and forced the 'coon to go down...interesting in itself that trick, since I was between him and the down direction..but down he headed.....my friend then proceeded, once the coon hit the ground, to trounce on him & cover/capture him with a heavy, greasy winter/insulated jean material work coat....he did get the 'coon covered alright but then we had no idea how to let a pissed off & now fighting mad raccoon out of the coat....don't know just what our original intent was actually.....couldn't have been to impress the two gals we had with us...not our style, oh no....at any rate we got the girls to get safely back into the care...we let go the coat containing the fightin', pissd off 'coon and ran to the car...the 'coon finally got out from under the coat and took off for the woods...thankful we was for his decision.
howsomever, most coons we took was over dogs at nite in the fall and they treed the coons and we spotlighted the eyes and shot them, usually with a .22 LR handgun. Some times the wise old coons wouldn't open their eyes or look at the light...then someone had to climb the tree to find them...in the dark of the night remember. Started many coon out of cornfields but also in the wooded areas too. Made for long nites, short sleeps and long weary work days for us....the dogs slept in. Did I mention we was lots younger when these things took place? |
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GO TO U TUBE AND TYPE IN CALLING RACCOONS, IN THE SEARCH BLOCK. lOTS OF VIDEOS WITH GREAT INFORMATION....GOOD LUCK
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Robert +1 Baiting is allow here and it is effective. I make a drag, from and old white clean sock, with a half of a can of cat food inside. i drag it for 300 yards along a likely area. then i set up the other half of a can in an open area(the shooting place).. the coon hits the trail and follows to the can. This is a night set, but it could also be used in the early morning. coons are nocturnal, but they don't have a timex. so they return to their denning area in early morning. I think the drag/set would work If the drag was made for a few days, rebaiting each day. then on the third day wait and shoot a late returner. Using the drag thing, lets you check to see if there are coons in the area, bait taken. It is a wait of time to sit out for coons in an area that is not filled with the treecats. I've often seen coons in the evening when treestand hunting for deer, but I think they are just getting an early start on an evening hunt. Early summer means lots of little mouths to feed so coons hunt longer, mor daylight time. this is eapecially true when the kits are about 1#, as the milk is running dry and real food has to be found for all winey mouths. On a few occasions, when calling for fox in the early evening, I've had coons come to my predator call, but not often enough for me to think that would work. Be careful with coons, they bite with pin like teeth, and have rabies and bacteria in thier choppers. I have been bitten, but have taken the rabies shots; and I'm still very careful. They "click" their teeth loudly, just like a grizz (their big cousin). Only smoke will get a family of coons out of a den tree, they will just look down at you with a cute smile unless the tree is on fire. they like to be up about 10+ foot and 20 foot is where I find most of the nests.
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samchap
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Anyone ever got peed on shaking A COON OUT OF THE TOP OF A
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samchap - Waldoboro, ME
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No Sam I've not. But while deer hunting archery, I was sitting with my back against a tree on a blowdown. Heard a squirrel coming down the tree. Sure enough he came down crossed my lap and was strutting on the log. thought I'd have some fun so I moved toward him and from 3 feet shouted loudly. He didn't know what was happening but ran back across the my lap inches from my face, peeing all the way. It wasn't nice to make fun of mother nature. |
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Years ago in my early teens I had a cousin visiting from
urban CT. He and I were invited to go out one night with a couple of coon hound roading nuts. The hound is let out on a back dirt road and it trots along ahead of the car until it winds the scent of a coon. We had driven up into a newly harvested corn field when the hounds started yelping and soon bayed treed. My cousin was asked if he wanted to go up and shake the coon out of the tree and he jumped at the chance. Up he went as the guys were doing their best to spot the coon with their lights. As he got near the coon it would go higher up in the tree. Eventually they both were up in the tippy-top and he was told to start shaking the part of the tree the coon was clinging to. As soon as he started shaking the coon around it let go and dribbled pee all over me cousin. I can't remember just what went on with him from there but I do remember that he came down and one of the guys with the hounds gave him a pocket knife to go up with and cut the tree and snap it off. That's how high up the coon was! That worked. The hounds were held back to give the coon a head start across the field and then released to go after him. We did eventually shoot the coon. In later years I have wondered if the guys knew what would happen and just wanted to see someone new getting the surprise of his life. People around here are known for doing things like that. The original owner of Morse's Sauerkraut in My town was a good talker and very friendly to customers. As a nice gesture he would offer them cups of sauerkraut juice and kept their cup filled as long as they wanted it. Generally people who like the sauerkraut like the juice. Well mister man let me tell you you've got just about 20 minutes before that juice goes through you and if you aren't near a toilet it is going to go through, explosively, anyway. Hmmmmmmmm.....Anyone ever drunk the colonoscopy juice they tell you to drink the night before. I now think the coon hunters were a bit like the sauerkraut guy. |
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samchap - Waldoboro, ME
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