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deaddog
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Posted: 14 April 2017 at 17:49 |
So I saw this question on another forum. Most there are a bunch of
braggarts or trolls. I do think it is an interesting question though. If you carry do you: Only if you carry a mag loaded: load a single in the pipe - and load a full mag Insert a magazine - leave the pipe empty Insert a magazine - rack a round Insert a magazine - rack a round then drop the mag and top off The overwhelming thought on the other site was the load +1 Myself I have found the drag of a full mag to be nearly enough to stop the function of a blow back action. A drop down action like a 1911, Sig, or Beretta, H&K, etc. Can more easily handle that extra drag from a full mag. Secondarily, how often do you use the same round chambering it from a magazine. Taking into account the bullet setback? I try to keep track and keep it to ten times before I move it to the bottom of the mag. I'm not anal or scientific but I do try. How about you? When I was in the Army the 20rd AR mag was only 18. Opinions? Edited by deaddog |
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I never load mags full.
I do notice that most auto advertise the mag capacity plus one in chamber. that means the load/cycle/remove mag/load one in mag/ reinsert/ stupid. My new 380 says 7+1. as you know when you shot it, I load six in the mag; cycle one into chamber. So for me it is just a thin 6 shooter! |
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To me the pressure pushing up on a full magazine on the bottom of a
bolt is a lot of friction to overcome considering each round exerts less and less and the reliability should be increasingly better with each shot. |
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Most of my pistols I will load to max with out any problems, the 1911's
may be a little finicky especially the Dan Wessons. DD you know what I have, but I agree with the AR format. Edited by thedad |
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Glad I stirred things up. Haven't seen The Dad post here in awhile. I know he has a few Glocks and I may dabble with them from time to time. A 17 round Glock mag being pushed into a gun with a a closed bolt is not an easy task. You can rap it good wit the palm of your hand but it may not seat even though it is swelled and thick enough to hold in place just by friction. Same problem in a 1911 platform is unlikely. DD |
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none of my bolt action rifles are ever loaded to capacity.
In my 416 DGR, I load 1 in and two down...except when in africa. In Africa folks never use a safety. They only load one in by cycling the action when game is spotted. they also treat every gun as if it is in that condition. On staggered magazine (the mauser invention) high pressure from a full mag, heavy spring pressure, makes it easy for the bolt to cycle OVER the top cartridge. |
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Fella's;
My carry gun is an H&K USPc in .40 S&W. I have both 10 and 12 round magazines for it. In both cases it's full magazine inserted, rack the slide, drop the hammer, remove the mag & top it off. I've carried the gun since the 1990's & never had a problem with feeding or function using either type of magazine. 900F |
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I do it slightly different, I load mag with few rounds, insert mag rack to load, remove mag and finish loading. I see no benefit, topping off mag twice, being how last few rounds are hardest to load.
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I carry a S&W Shield when I am at work. I insert the
magazine then put a round in the chamber. That only leaves 6 in the magazine. I try to remember to rotate the chambered round every 2 weeks or so. I never have measured them but I can't tell by looking that their has been any bullet set back. The rest of the time I carry a revolver. It only holds 5 rounds, but I figure 5 is better than none. I do find it interesting that I have never heard of anyone carrying a semi-auto with a full magazine and nothing in the chamber. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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OK,
What do you do with "that" round that has felt the slam of the slide multiple times? DD |
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Wing master
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I move it to the bottom of the magazine. Then almost every
time I go to the range, I shoot the ammo thats in the magazine. If I shoot that gun more I use cheap ammo then when I get home I reload the magazine with carry ammo. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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I've carried a Firestar for decades cocked and locked
with a full mag (7+1) without trouble. It rides in a thumb break belt holster or horizontal carry shoulder rig. I change the mags every couple of months to relieve the springs and will change the one from the chamber at the same time. If I hit the range, the one in the chamber gets shot first regardless of how long it's been in there. 788 |
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Interesting question. For me it all depends on the situation. For my glock I never load the mag full it is just too hard to load and the first shell cycles to hard. Most of the time I carry one in the pipe and one less than full in the mag. With that said I do much better with revolvers than autos so the majority of the time I carry a double action with all 6 chambers ready and have a couple of speed loader to refill if needed.
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