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CB900F
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JSG;
Uh, for mulies, which tend to run larger than whitetails, my .30-06 load uses a 150 grain bullet. There's no need to go any heavier. The old saw about "bucking brush" is mythical in my opinion. Modern construction bullets can do just fine. Picking the shot & placing it properly is far more important than any "brush bucking" supposed ability. You can push a 150 to 3000 fps in an ought-6, particularly in a strong action like the Weatherby, but there's no need to. Anything in the high 28's & 2900's will do just fine. I don't think you need to consider 400 yard shots any too much in Penn's Woods. 900F |
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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d4570
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NEED! has nothung to do with it.
I like speed I like BIG bullets too. Don't Have to but I LIKE IT !!!! |
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jsgbearpaws1
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I agree that 150's and 165's are about prime. He had them for bear as it was in an overlapping season in this WMU. Guess he figured better to be bigger then not enough if the scenario changed direction.
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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!
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BEAR
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D, the problem is not just bullet weight in the '06.
Most PA woods hunters like factory 180 gr '06. these are designed for elk and moose and just don't expand in even the biggest whitetail. So they are like sticking a deer with a 30 caliber sword...no expansion, no shock value. I've tried with hundreds of PA deer hunters, explaining that the 150 gr would be many times better. But they are like CB says...wed to big deer need big bullets that are 'brush busters'. Heavy jacketed bullets just don't belong in the hands of the average deer hunter. |
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Wing master
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Congratulations to your son JSG.
It doesn't matter what I am hunting, if I see a coyote it turns into a coyote hunt. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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jsgbearpaws1
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No buck as yet for him so the yote was a big boost to
his morale. |
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...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!
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bachekermooni
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I shoot 150 gr SST or Interlock in my 308 around 2830
fps. It is accurate and spares my shoulder - especially in a Kimber 84. Never seen a need for anything faster or larger out to 500 yards on medium game. YMMV. |
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bachekermooni
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OK fellas, we are on ... I want my first coyote.
Thu, 12 JAN DELTA 4647 ARRIVE GREAT FALLS, MT 12:49pm Sun, 15 JAN ALASKA AIRLINES 2333 DEPART GREAT FALLS, MT 03:30pm |
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d4570
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COOL.
Let me know if you need a ride in to town. |
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CB900F
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D;
A good thing to do is perhaps let the rest of us know your schedule. After all, you are the man with the expertise & the boom-box. 900F |
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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d4570
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I'm off thurs, fri and Saturday.
I normally do Family stuff on Sundays. So anything you come up with let me know. Bachekermooni and I talked today. I guess he is coming in Thurs mid day. You gata plan ? |
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BEAR
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seems I lost a message, but a repeat.
bach seems to be getting in at about 1pm I'm due in at 2:15 pm If he waits we could get a cab to Econo Lodge formerly Ponderosa. Not classy but clean and close walking distance to restaurants. Could you join us? My treat. I know CB is in the little belts, a distance off. Bach is that ok with you??? |
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bachekermooni
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Bear, your wish is my command. Have AR, will travel.
I am bringing my caller as well as lights. I shall await your arrival. Please pm me your flights so i know their status. Do you use GOGo inflight? Best, Cyrus .
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CB900F
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Fella's;
I had thought to greet the two of you at the airport & provide the ride into town. But since I'm specifically excluded, I'll just stay home and drink. 900F |
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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bachekermooni
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Bear, I will let you field this one. I was simply complying with your
wishes.
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bachekermooni
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Bear, I got 1m points with Amex. Call me sat to discuss. Check your
pm for my cell.
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d4570
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Bachekermooni & Bear
Kinda looking like winter all over the state. That's NOT a good thing. -20* here this morning. By Saturday it may be as high as +25*. We got 8" of new fluffy white crap this storm the wind could become a nasty factor in our Plans. At this point in my mind If we get a Chinook It will make it warmer but worse. Maybe another storm coming in on Sunday, Not expecting as much snow as the last but wind may come with it and THAT is BAD news. We will get out and call but it WILL be a very hard hunt, just the way it looks right now. I'm defiantly planning on full whites and my full winter under stuff. AND I dug out my snow shoes , YUK, even in 5" of snow they help a LOT. Lets cross our fingers and hope for the best and plan for the worst . D |
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BEAR
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Got the whites packed and shoes will be trying to fit on
plane. We get weather, that we get. unless one of you guys have a better in with the big dude upstairs? if I try talking to him we'll have 35' of snow for sure. |
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CB900F
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Fella's;
We've got 9 days now till you two come in. In 9 days the weather will change. Of course now that we want it to, it'll be perverse about it. What's the opposite of a Native American rain dance? Armenian Bar Mitzvah? Something ethnic from Chad or Mali? OTOH, I have secured written permission from one neighbor for this project & I'm pretty sure I'll get it from another also. 900F |
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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BEAR
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so far great.
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