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hubel458
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28ga cases are made by Rocky Mtn Cartridge, Edited by hubel458 |
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hubel458
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Here is picture and info on Royal |
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hubel458
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I like the Savage 210 so I'm putting |
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hubel458
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28GA FH research. Guy on forums suggested using 54cal
rifled barrels for 28ga as they are easy to get. I looked into it and did some testing. It is ok as long as you keep bullet about 400gr as most 54cal barrels are not super alloy. You got to use the thick heavy ones also, being stronger. And everyone with 28ga wants slugs and there is no slug loads from factory, and to reload the heavier bullets we shouldn't use these barrels or regular 28ga barrels with 600-700 gr slugs. But there are couple dozen 54cal bullets out there stocked all over the gunstore shelves, in weights from 300 to 450 gr. There are heavier but for 28GA FH on deer 400gr is great. I tested the 405 gr copper plated Powerbelt brand, with velocities from 2300 to 2800 plus fps. That's over 6500 ft lbs. The 54cal slugs load tight in the RMC 3.25" 28ga case fine by sizing top a little tighter. Bullet obturates to fit .550 bore as bullet is hitting target straight. A lot of 54cal barrels go from 530 to 560. 54cal slugs range from .534 to .560" There are different sizes of 28ga barrels and chokes, so some where there is lighter 54cal slug that fits.. And with light slugs the pressure limits with the MRC brass match top muzzle loading pressures, so these barrels will work. And great thing is the 54cal barrel guys ain't allergic to making long barrels. Oh, I've shot one MRC case 15 times and still going strong...Ed |
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hubel458
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28GA FH testing. 405 gr in 2.75" plastic case
got 1400. Tested the Great Plains 54cal lubed slug, runs from 2200 to 2700. It is by Hornady and its front band actually measures .550" and hollowbase. They hit target straight. Got a bunch of 415gr hollowbase coming that are 548" from Dixie Gunworks. Only 26 cents each. All will work in plastic or long brass case. I found another .550 bbl and coming, and it will go on a Mossberg bolt action for the second 28GA FH to test.. Ed |
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hubel458
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tested the 415 gr hollowbase slugs in 28GA FH long
brass case. These are ones that Dixie Gunworks sell that they call their Sharps .548" slug. They all run about .008 bigger than that so they make perfect tight fit for .550" barrel, and I used a good lube on them in the grooves. They are a little harder alloy slug than the Powerbelts or Great Plains The 28ga shellholder for our Lee, Lyman, Rcbs presses , we use, is from RCBS for regular metallic press rams. For 28ga dies Hollywood made some for metallic presses.Also for sizing for bottom 2/3 of the brass case you can cut top off of the 500J die.The slower powder loads don't even have to have the bottom half sized, which is great for a turned case. If we had drawn brass cases we could get 11,000 ft lbs, in the Enfield, which we don't really need for deer. 4-6000 ft lbs ok/deer ..Ed |
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hubel458
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Here is picture of a jacketed hollowpoint |
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hubel458
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In the 87 Win Levergun, smooth barrel, Santa sent me 9 more PROP cases used in little |
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hubel458
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THE 8GA FH BELLERED TODAY. It is in Enfield I rigged with
rear locking bolt lugs. 32" barrel, tested 3.3" plastic cases. Cases are the REM kiln gun cases. With the double cup base. I shaved base a little so that chamber will fire these as well as regular 8ga plastic. None of the firing today expanded base cups at all, so they are real strong cases. Started testing to check ignition with shotgun primers and to see if cases are any good. Starting with a 110 gr mouse ball, wad under it, and 150 gr of Blue Dot, about 5000 fps.. Gun didn't even recoil.Then a 410 gr one at 3000 fps, Then a 770 gr hollowbase slug in a wadcup up to 2000 so far with 180gr of 7383. Barrel is smoothbore. 832" bore at the muzzle. Ed |
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8GA FH testing- using IMR 4759, 770 gr slug, |
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hubel458
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Here is picture on left of the 12ga hollowpoint slug
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hubel458
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I also have two other cartridges with my name |
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On Fri May 2 8pm on the Science Channel ,they will have
an article about the heavy barrel cannons that shoot the brass cases for bomb disposal.They are the same as our 12GA FH case,when resized in my dies and are shown in this thread a couple months back in picture. It will show them using them for bomb disposal. Ed |
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Testing 8GA FH in Enfield, 1050 gr slug in wad cup, 120 gr Edited by hubel458 |
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hubel458
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Here is picture of the bolt setup for the 8ga |
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hubel458
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I was asked how I got 8ga heavy barrel so quick.
First it is smoothbore, second a 110 bucks total shipping and all. First I bought a 1.5 inch dia 4130 alloy, heat treated, shaft, 32" long. Then I had a deep hole drilling company drill a .832" hole in it. Came out centered on both ends. Then after it got here I used cylinder hone to polish the inside of the bore. Threaded it, chambered it, and put in the Enfield bolt action. The heat treating it has is just like the barrel stock that barrel guys get. Ed. |
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For those wanting to see video of the 12GA FH in
the Savage busting big pail of water, one of the kids posted it on Youtube- Titled "Grampa's Cannon". I just found out that it is on there. This was the video that the still pictures posted before, was taken from. They have the sound muted so as not to hurt camera sound system. Ed |
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hubel458
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Load of 12 triple ought buckshot in 8ga. They are
70gr each, total 840 gr, and over 2000 fps with 125 gr of 4759. Ed Here is URL for the waterpail busting video above-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUNHszY4ACM |
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Ed, I watched the video, cool. Doesn't look like you were enjoying yourself though. RD
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hubel458
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There are now two videos of 12GA FH on YouTube,
exploding big heavy walled pails of water. The "Grampa's Cannon" one with a long view, and "Grandpa's First Shot" a closeup video, the first one, that shows how the top of heavy shelf got bent. Later kids will do videos showing muzzle blast and recoil. Also the 3 ought buckshot from the 8ga load above goes through 2" hardwood ok. I will test 8ga on waterpail also, to see what happens. Ed |
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