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CCW solid or Hollow point?

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I would agree with that. I suspect the ammo was all FMJ stuff and that modern hi-performance HP ammo would have made a lot of difference. That being said it is still interesting comparing 9mm FMJ to 45 FMJ or 9mm HP to 45 HP, the stopping power is relative. A 9MM HP may perform as good as a FMJ 45 but a 45 HP works even better.

The morbid side of me has spent way more time than I should have reading and studying after action reports, witness accounts and talking to people who have firsthand knowledge of shootings.  I am very interested in terminal performance of bullets handgun and rifle. The one thing I can say after all my investigation is nothing is certain, there is and will be an exception to every idea and theory that we come up with.  If you really think about it we should have expected that because when you are dealing with terminal performance and the results there of there are hundreds of variables that can affect the outcome.

Another interesting interview I saw was from an EMT in one of the big cities (I think LA). He was an EMT for years and saw a lot of GSW come in. He said that the deadliest handgun round was the 22. Everyone thought he was crazy until he explained why. He said that most people who were shot in the chest with a 22 did not take GSW seriously. There was very little pain and very little bleeding so they almost never sought medical help right away. The 22 caused serious internal damage but the person did not realize it. By the time they realized that they had a problem it was too late. If they would have sought help right away they probably would have survived. With bigger rounds they usually went right to the ER and had a higher survival rate. Kind of interesting in the human thought process of GWS’s.

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I used to work with a guy that flew Huey's in Vietnam. He always claimed to have been shot eight times. The thing was it was with only one bullet. In through the bottom of the chopper, through the bottom of his boot, bottom of his foot out the side of his ankle, in and out his calf, in and out his thigh, in and out his shoulder, then lodged in the back of his seat. He said his crew chief recovered the bullet and gave it to him. I never saw the bullet but I saw the scars on his legs and they were huge zipper stitched with chunks the size of golf balls missing. 7.62x39 fmj.
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One of my dad's neighbors, is a anesthesiologist, he did his internship in New Orleans in 70s. He also had said more die from 22, than bigger rounds, for the same reason, either don't know they've been shot (too high to notice) or they wait too long to come in.

He said most bad guys shot by cops made it, they were brought in right away. City police of the time, were armed with 38sp with 158gr LRN and few later with 9mm with 147gr FMJ.
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