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TasunkaWitko ![]() Administrator ![]() aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14744 |
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alright, this is the small game board. small game means varmints, and varmints mean long range shooting.
anyone want to try for the big one? a thousand-yard kill on your favorite varmint? yeah, i know that it would be a lot easier to have a 500yd or maybe even 750yd varmint club, but hell, we're the BSBs; certainly one or two of us could do it! the rules are simple:
the prize for making it into the club? i am afraid that i am totally tapped for any money or prizes, but bragging rights are a given. also available is the fact that you will be known as a no-bullshit kind of varminter who has worked hard and achieved a huge milestone. i will also do whatever i can to spread the word about your achievement to a number of forums, and perhaps we can also contact a few magazines. sound good? i know that it's a pretty ambitious challenge, but it wouldn't be worth much otherwise. anyone who's got the guts to attempt this one and see it through deserves to be recognized. if you know any other varminters, refer them to this challenge and have them join BSB to get in on it. while 1000yrds is the primary goal, we would also like to see pix and stories of some of the stepping stones up to this mark. please submit entries for 500yrds, 750yrds and 900yrds as well, and these will be displayed in order to show your progress!! these rules and guidelines are a first-draft only, and i am sure that i left a few details out. i am not an experienced varminter, and doubt that i will be even trying out for this challenge any time soon. with that in mind, suggestions, ideas and comments on this proposal should be submitted on this thread. entries to the club can also be submitted on this thread. if any changes are made to the basic rules, they will be found here in this post. i will make them in bold print or make a notation at the bottom of this post describing the changes. i would like to have all amendments in place and a final version of the rules and guidelines by 1 may 2005. alright! let's see some feedback on this and, hopefully, a few entries! ![]() Edited by TasunkaWitko |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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dakotasin ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099 |
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i think a paper element should be added as a requisite to shooting long. best groups at a couple of yardages, measured of course, and once you have a group on paper, then you can shoot long at a live target. there are a couple of reasons here. 1- so everybody can see what size group it takes to make a kill at whatever yardage, and 2- the shooter can verify his exterior ballistics before heading out. i'll be done w/ school around the 6th of may, at which time i'll have the time to go out for dogs. i'm in. perhaps 2 divisions, too... division one for 308 and smaller bullets, and a division for 323 and over? or 338 could be the dividing line... or, no divisions at all... 1000 is a 1000 and takes skill regardless of caliber... Edited by dakotasin |
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Hunting is not a matter of life or death; it is much more important than that.
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waksupi ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() aka Keeper of the Old Traditions Joined: 11 June 2003 Status: Offline Points: 2371 |
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I have enough problem seeing the 30 inch target at a thousand with the sights on my Sharps. A gopher? Hahahahahahahaha!
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dakotasin ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099 |
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maybe you just need to step up to a 3x??
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TasunkaWitko ![]() Administrator ![]() aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14744 |
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ah, but think of the GLORY, ric!!! ![]() |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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TasunkaWitko ![]() Administrator ![]() aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14744 |
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alright, after a couple of PMs, these changes have been made to the original post:
1000yrds is still the goal, but we will also have 500yrd, 750yrd and 900yrd categories. please submit these pix and stories also! |
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Timberghozt ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() aka GarryOwen Joined: 21 March 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1971 |
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Hey Tash,count me in.The farthest I have ever shot for small targets is 700 yards.I think I have a load for my 308 that could possibly do it at 1000 yards.Getting a critter to stay out past 1000 may be difficult,but any critter past 500 yards is a good accomplishment in my book.
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quigleysharps45 ![]() .243 Winchester ![]() Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 131 |
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Wouldn't mind giving it a whirl...but...I'd have to talk to my buddy's wives to see if they'd let their husbands out from under their skirts long enough to do some witnessing.
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Taupo Varminter ![]() .22 LongRifle ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 May 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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On the 1st of may around 9:30am my time I shot a Rabbit with my weatherby markV 22-250 50gr Vmax with 37gr AR2208 powder doing 3790 ft/sec At 405m in the head (eye in fact) then 20 mins latter I shot a rabbit 570m thats 625 yards in the chest. Distances were verified by bushnel laser range finder twice and verified by Taupo Hunter of accurate reloading forums. To date my record was 310m on a rabbit so this absolutly blows that away. I forgot to bring my digital camera that morning so photo's still to come but that is good mile stone to achieve. The hard job is to find Varmints in open enough country to get a 1000yd shot (914m for us metrics, I'm going for the 1000m next thats 1093yards.
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Long shot Lloyd
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TasunkaWitko ![]() Administrator ![]() aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14744 |
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taupo -
first, welcome to the baitshop! i'm honored to tell you that you are, as far as i know, our first member who is from new zealand! ![]() secondly, that's some VERY good shooting! a couple of years ago, i had bought a howa .223 and was in the process of loading some 50-grn Vmax pillos for it, but unfortunately, i had to trade the rifle for a car (we REALLY needed a car!) and never got to try those loads. judging from your account, it seems as though the Vmax is living up to its reputation as a fantastic bullet! looking forward to more long-range varminting talk and also to your knowledge and experience from kiwi-land! ![]() |
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macca ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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Well I have been trying to get to 1000 yards for a fair while.I sit at 966 yards a bit of a jump from 911 last year.I hope to get there eventually.I have not had a lot of free time this year between work and shooting trips so my posts are few and far between. Macca |
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don't let the bastards grind you down.
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Taupo Varminter ![]() .22 LongRifle ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 May 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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966 yards is a long shot in anybodies book specially if it was one shot one kill. What did you shoot and What callibre, skope, load etc (all the bullshit). And how did you verify the distance?? The reason I want to know all this is for my next attempt at a long shot. Weather my rifle will cut the mustard or not??
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Long shot Lloyd
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macca ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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TV, the rifle was a 40lb 300 RUM with 34 inch barrel by Tobler.It was driving 240 grain customs with ADI AR2217.A leica 1200 range finder gave distances of 966,967 and 965(966 average).It wore a 12x42 x56mm Nightforce. It was shot from a stationary vehicle at 4.15pm with six other shooters present.It was not the long shot of the day.That belongs to another gentleman. I have had no luck with my 308 past 600 yards.My 243 sits about 550 yards.I hope to use a 6mm BR(my new F class target rifle) and see how it goes. I also used the RUM to go 911 yards last year.That however was a feral pig. Good luck with your quest for 1000meters or yards.You will find a few acomplished long rangers on this sight. Macca
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Taupo Varminter ![]() .22 LongRifle ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 May 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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What did you shoot at 966 yards??
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Long shot Lloyd
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macca ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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It was a bunny mate.I had had a few hit around 500 yards earlier and some misses between 700 and 800.I had one lasered at over a 1000(actually the laser was reading on a rock behind him) but he ducked back into his hole.The unlucky victim came up on the closer side of the warren and met his fate.Not much left when a 240 goes through. It was a good day for LR with very light breeze and no mirage. The bloke who owns the rifle(a gunsmith) popped a goat at 980 odd the same day. We only shoot when the conditions are as close to ideal as you can get. All the blokes I shoot with are range shooters as well(either benchrest or F-class and fullbore).So we have a fair bit of practice reading wind etc.We aren't yahoos. Macca Macca |
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Taupo Varminter ![]() .22 LongRifle ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 May 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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I am impressed so there is hope for me yet, allthough I think i'll be strugling to a 1000yard with my 22-250 so I was thinking next time to use my sako 30-06 with 110 Vmax as well to see which would suit the 100yard better Thanks for the inspiration for more long shooting. |
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Long shot Lloyd
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macca ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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TV,the 22-250 will get to 1000yards with your current load but it will be doing 1018fps and it will deliver 115 fpe with 368 inches of drop and 150 inches of movement in a 10mph cross wind. If you ever wear out the barrel consider having a 1:8 twist put in and shooting 80 grainers.They get to 1000y at 1274fps,288fpe,362 inches of drop and 117 inches of movement in a 10mph cross wind. The 30-06 will do good if the groups hold at that distance.Go with the most accurate load.The heavier projectiles with better bc often stand up better then the high velocity loads.Just a thought. Macca |
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Fiftydriver ![]() .243 Winchester ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 April 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 189 |
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Tas, This is an account of a couple hunts that occured this week for me. A little information on the rifle used: -One of my APS Extreme Sporters based on a Savage receiver. -30" #6 contour 1-8" twist .277" -Chambering: 270 Allen mag -Rifle weight: 10 1/4 lbs ready to hunt Load -Bullet: 169.5 gr ULD RBBT Wildcat .750 BC -100.0 gr WC872 -Velocity: 3265 fps (rather mild as 3400 fps is easily reached) Scope -Weaver 4.5-14 Tactical mil-dot w/ scope level Here is the story: Was a nice morning so I decided to head back out to the chuck hill to see if I could catch a fat boy sunning on the rocks. |
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macca ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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Congrats Fifty,that is a great shot and one hell of a round you have developed.All the best with your future rounds as well. Macca |
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TasunkaWitko ![]() Administrator ![]() aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14744 |
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congratulations on some outstanding shooting, kirby, and thanks for a great account of it! |
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