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    Posted: 15 April 2018 at 14:47
Antelope hunting is really unique.  Shooting consistently over long ranges at a mid-sized animal.

Myyounger bro' has never killed an antelope, so he asked my opinion on the best cartridge.  Hope he is serious.

I suggested he get a 25-06 (Wing's post brought it to mind).  I'm sure other cartridges would work; I don't own a 25-06.  But the 260 Remington and the 257 Roberts work for me, even though I bought those for whitetail hunting.





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Of the quarterbores, I'ld lean towards the 257 Weatherby. .243 Win and 6mm Rem are other good options. If you need a reason to really stretch it flat and fast, perhaps the 26 Nosler. I would love to hear some feet on the ground experience with the little screamer. The old 25-06 though is a sound choice given parent case and powders available these days.
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I've been using my 6.5x55 Swede on speed goats for years. It's excellent all the way out to 500yds & more. I bought myself a .257WBY with the intention of making it speed goat specific, but have yet to find a load to give me the accuracy I expect. I'm starting to wonder if the Vanguard I bought was on sale for under 300 for a reason.
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Another vote for the 6mm rem or 243,80 or 85 gr bullet.
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Actually thought of the 257 Weatherby, but really it is close to the 25-06.

I was going to take a Weatherby Mark V in 257 for antelope...but the sucker is heavy conpared to my Kimber ultra light 260R.

speed goats and caribou are two of the easiest to kill animals I've ever hunted.  But having seen some kills/wwounds with a 62 grain 223; I don't think any 22 Cf is a good choice.

 the 6mm Rem (aka 244) is more speed than the 243win, which I consider minimum.  I have a short action M700 sitting around...maybe a 244/6mm rebarrel project?  too short for a Swed.


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I have a Rem 700 6mm. I haven't really looked at game weight bullets recently, it's been nearly 20 years since the last time I did. At that time, I decided bullet weights and constructions available in the .243 caliber weren't enough for game in my comfort zone. Finding a good 90 to 100gr .243 game bullet is still an exercise in patience and searching. The .257 caliber offers many more options at the low 100gr range and speeds are significantly higher in the larger cartridge offerings.

Can it be done? Sure. So could a 22lr. It all comes down to comfort level of the hunter in question.
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It's nothing odd or fancy, but the .270 is about as good as it gets for antelope. 

That being said, I used a .308 the last two years for antelope and they didn't seem to notice if it wasn't a good choice. 

The one I shot before that was with a .270. 

That's all the antelope I have shot in my life and I live right in the middle of some of the best antelope hunting country their is. 

I agree with Garou. I think if you have a good rest and are comfortable with the shot you will be packing out an antelope. 

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I have shot many antelope over the years with everything from a 223 rem to a 338 win mag. Yes a 338 win mag... I have found on average they are not hard to kill and any reasonable cartridge will do the trick. With that said one of the toughest kills I have ever did was on a antelope using a 7mm Rem mag. 4 solid shots and 3 miles later I had an antelope on the ground. Antelope are not very deep so relatively soft quick expanding bullets should be used.
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  I'm wondering if the 7mm-08 wouldn't work out fairly well. I have lately been reloading a Barnes 110 TSX over 46gr's of Varget , for my grandson for Mulie's works like a charm ,so I thought I'd give it a try on Whitetails this last year and right at 200 yards it didn't waver and the deer went less than 20 yards .  Before this I was using  140 Sierra load that was really constant as well. Gonna try and see if I can make it out for them this year with the boy's.
 
  Without a chrony I have no idea of the speed and back here we really have no wind to speak of,and that's another thing I'm thinking about .
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Originally posted by Tikkabuck Tikkabuck wrote:


  Without a chrony I have no idea of the speed and back here we really have no wind to speak of,and that's another thing I'm thinking about .


Not having a Chrono isn't that big a challenge to figure velocity. Just measure drop every 100yds past your zero distance for three to four points. Then enter the data into a Ballistics program with the Bullet B.C. like JBM ballistics or Berger, Hornady, Sierra, etc. The program will calculate muzzle velocity given drop in inches by distance past your zero distance. The more data points given, the more accurate the MV calculation.
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I agree Tikka, easy to kill.  sort of surprised no one mentioned the 270 with the great 130 grain bullet, o'connor would be rolling over with not hearing it mentioned.
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I happen to agree with CB, what is the point of owning any .277 cal cartridge, Especially the .270, if one already owns an '06, any .284, or any .264. Purely pointless, IMO.
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Look up above Bear. I mentioned the magical .270. 

130 grains is all you need coming out of something as special as a .270 barrel. 

I hope you stick around Garou. I had many a discussion with 900f about the magical .270. 

I don't think I ever got him convinced of the power of it though. 

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....ummm....isn't the Win. .270 a poor little cousin wannabe to the .280Rem?????Clap

I think the 7mm-08 would be dandy for the antelope game Tika....I have only used mine on whitetail and with the 139gr Hornady can't 'member the powder/load data just now but whatever it is, it works well. I might suspect you used a 110gr pill to help tame any recoil for the grandkid. I did the same years back with a .308 in a hard kicking Rem 600 for my young son only use a 130gr for him. 
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did I see a question about the 25-06 vs antelope around here????

check this out for some info on the subject

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We can always go down the wildcat road and do the 6mm-06...or work on your javelin toss and hit them with a .270 rifle. That poor red-headed stepchild has to be aimed into space to get the angle right past 500 right!
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IBD lots of known history there.  But his conclusions are flawed.

to get a flatter 25-06 and at the sametime a more powerful 6.5/270 he compares the 25-06 with a 115 grain bullet to the others with 149+ grain bullets.

I think the 270 will roll antelope all the time, but the 25-06 will shoot flater.  If someone thinks the 6.5 is the best, I certainly would not disagree.
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