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6.5mm as an antelope killer

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wing master Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2017 at 14:52
Bear,

I agree 100%. I don't have a problem shooting heavy
recoiling guns, but I shoot low recoiling guns a lot
better.

I never have really thought about comparing a .270 and
.264 Win Mag. And, I never have liked "the belt"

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote deaddog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2017 at 02:39
Do you still have time to change?

6.5-300 Weatherby 3551fps muzzle velocity.

You said you could live with recoil.

It'd be like giving yourself a 400 yard head start. That's where it finally
slows down to the muzzle velocity of the Swede.

Factory ammo is available for only $73-$98 per box.



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Lets keep it in the family, 6.5 Allen Magnum, 338RUM necked down. http://www.apsrifles.com/Allen_Magnum_Wildcats.html
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BEAR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2017 at 06:44
Not sure the 6.5 iss a "best" for elk.

But antelope and caribou are two of the easiest big game
animals to kill. Much easier than thank whitetail deer.

I picked the 123 gr because I wanted a high muzzle
velocity, a high BC. And I wanted a a light enough
bullet to expand at the magic 300-400 yard range that I
find antelopes seeming to tolerate my own smell/sight.

Larger bullets just don't expand well at long range
(possible only exception is the Nosler BT).
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DD I'd consider the 6.5 300 weatherby. BUT, life
expectancy on the barrel is very limited...so is mine!
Maybe a fit?         &n bsp;Wing is too young, he would wear
out the barrel before his legs give out.
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Barrels are like tires. You just put on a new one. You don't throw your
car or gun away.

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I have had a couple of guns that shoot in excess of 3200 fps and have had mixed results. What I have found is that they (because of the high speed) are inconsistent. One time the animal dies like a bolt of lighting hit it and the next time the critter goes for a long ways before it goes down. It all stems from the terminal bullet performance, if the bullet does what it is suppose to and expands and doesn't come apart then you get the bolt of lighting from the sky, however, if the bullet doesn't expand or breaks up then it is a crap shoot.

If you have a bullet that is tough enough to hold together at 50 or 100 yards when the velocity is still 3000+ then that same bullet will not expand reliably when the distance gets long. The filp side of that is also true, if you have a bullet that will expand correctly at long range they are usually to soft at short range. Some of the better bullets try to cover both sides but no one has really got it perfected yet.

I have found that bullet that start out mid velocity (2700-3000) are more consistent than ones that start out at 3500.

I have also seen more bullets that are going real fast deflect more on bone than slower ones. I don't know why that is but I have noticed it.

Barrel live is relative, even hot rods can do 1000-2000 before needing to be replaced. That is a lot of shooting for a hot rod.
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I've found pointed bullets deflect more inside game
(usually on ribs) than round nose or blunt/flatnosed
given the same bullet weight.

Ribs and green stick/limbs are greasy/slippery and
seem to move out of the way for a while as the bullet
hits them. That movement out of the way seems to
'depart' a deflecting force on bullets, especially
lond pointed bullets.

Just my thoughts.


note: the old style 6.5 160 grain bullets were all
round nose; might be why they had a reputation for
penetration?
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DD
I probably wouldn't shoot that a 6.5-300 Weatherby enough
to ever worry about barrel life. I don't like recoil that
much.

I have other guns for elk if 6.5 isn't enough. I am just
hoping to end up with an "all around" rifle.

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Originally posted by deaddog deaddog wrote:

Barrels are like tires. You just put on a
new one. You don't throw your
car or gun away.

DD


Having all the other work already done, The next barrel
shouldn't be all that expensive.

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An all around rifle is boring, I had that, when I was twelve, #700 in /06.

When I got to rifle, for each day of week, I realized, I wanted one for each day of month, now I have a few spares, just in case.
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I agree Robert could be boring.

But my 260 Rem is super light 5.4# and shoots lights
out. So while a all-round might be boring, mine is a
companion. It is the first rifle I grab for
deer/varmints; and my backup/spare gun for bear and elk.
Just feels good.
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Maybe that's what I am looking for, A companion. I have
rifles that are better suited for each game animal but one
really accurate lightweight gun that will work for almost
anything is what I am looking for.

If 1/2 minute accuracy is boring I'm ok with that.

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I looked around a lot before deciding I wanted the
Kimber in 260 Remington. walnut and blued, looks
great shoots out standing...and carries super light.

I had it in MT for coyotes at MYGAWDS, wish I'd had
thought to let you shoot it.

!0 years ago, when I was having open heart surgery
(triple bypass), I told myself IF I lived thru it I'd
buy me a present, even had the model number. # days
late when a few tubes were out but still 6-7 still in,
my two brothers came in and presented me with the
rifle...sort of a get well present. Makes that rifle
No.1 with me.
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I remember that Rifle from Antelope hunting. It is a
beautiful rifle.

I guess I am getting older but the rifles that I will
always keep are the ones with a story behind them. A gift
like that from your brothers is a special thing. Something
to cherish.

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