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    Posted: 19 March 2018 at 15:51
Anyone read anything on this ?
I'm not a huge fan of long range shooting or even an AR type of rifle.
BUT, if I where this sound interesting.
One day when I hit a BIG lotto, I'll have one.
Along with a 26 Nosler and a 6.5 300 Weatherby Magnum.Clap  


Edited by d4570 - 19 March 2018 at 15:52
Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box
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Yep, another cartridge designed for the AR platform.  It is made for a 1:7 twist and a slow moving 90 grain bullet, travels at a velocity of 2,700 feet per second.

So it isn't particular flat shooting, but in the limitations of the AR platform, it gives a 224 dimeter bullet some retained energy at a long distance (by weight instead of velocity).

Semi-autos are BIG, but the AR platform is, and has been a looser.  But people keep buying them and love anything that throws a heavy bullet out of them.  Seems everyone equates them to the 6.5 Creed...makes no sense.

One could do better with a 220 swift, 22-250 for varmints.  If one wants a 90 grain bullet, best go with the better 243/244.  wonder how long before someone thinks to bring back the 222 mag in an AR form with a slow twist to shoot those 80-90 grainers?
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You can tweak a Ruger mini 30 into shooting the 22-250. AR platforms can be had in .243 from just about all manufacturers as well as 6.5 Grendel, and Creedmoor. I believe a few are even made in .260 Rem.. Lets not even get into the .308 based cartridges. Weight is on par with all bolt guns and generally they are smaller in size. I believe a few offerings in the auto platforms can be had in the 5lb range. It's actually a shame that most only shoot MOA and not sub 1/4 MOA or they would replace the clunky old bolt guns completely. Biggest drawback with them is aesthetics. The only one that ever appealed to me in a wood was the old M-14. Even the M1 looked like Bufford Pusser's club with a car handle and antenna stuck to it.
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The M14/M1A is certainly a fine rifle.  But loaded it is close to 11 pounds.  I believe that is why it was discontinued.

Then the weight 'thing' swung the other way and a The AR appeared as a McNamara cost/weight reduction program. it was originally purchased by the Air Force for base guard duty (7+# loaded).   I'm very surprised that the Ruger Mini is still around.  It was really a light weight clone of the M14.  so we old guys like them.

I think you are correct, bolt rifles can be more accurate than semi-auto rifles.  Certainly there are exceptions.  Maybe no one tries to design more accurate semi-autos, as fire-power seems to drive sales.

Interesting, the military initially wanted the 222 rem; but then realized the WW-2 guys would call them out for adopting a groundhog gun for war.  It would have been simple and cheaper to adopt the 222 mag, also a very accurate cartridge, but another varmint critter rifle.  So they split the two cartridges and went with one right in the middle (insignificat difference).  AND to further avoid telling adults that it was 'just a 22 cartridge", they for the first time called it by its metric name  5.56.  Word wax!




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