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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Timberghozt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2004 at 13:17

I hear ya GR.I hope I missed him with that second shot..but I dont think so.The way he jumped makes me think I put one in him.Either way, thats the way it goes sometimes.

On the VMax, thanks.I am gonna stick with Varget for a while with it and see what I can do.I might take my Redfield off my 270Win and put on the Weatherby.Dont know if it really matters.The .223 has nailed plenty of yotes with that old cheap Simmons on it, but.I`ve been saving money for a Leupold for the new 25-06AI so buying another quality scope to put back on my 270 is really not feasible at the moment.I would sure like to see a nice little.30" cloverleaf from the .223 with these ultralight bulletsIt gives me something to work towards with it anyway.The strange thing is I said I would never fool with loading a .223 but as I watch it do good, that handloader part in me just won`t quit trying to do better..


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave Skinner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2004 at 15:59

Ghost, you are on your way with some of those groups. Varget actually works better the heavier you go. I know a couple of guys who swear by (not at) Varget in their 22250s and 308s.

You should be just fine in the long run, and a half inch with a 3x9 is darn good tootin. I have a feeling if you go to some kind of 50-52 with a case-load of Varget, your groups might shrink even more.

When you do, I will be sort of curious to know what your final OAL to land contact turns out to be and with what bullet. I tried just about all of them in my old barrel and I still have the dummy rounds, so it will be interesting for me to learn JUST how long that throat is.

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Gene - Happy belated birthday!  Hope you got yer fill of seafood.  That's fine eating.  Almost as good as a wild game dinner .

I'm with CB, you're fine tuning now and I agree with you on not being able to see how you can improve on the load you've got.  You're keyholing the groups so you're doing very well. 

As for the 'yote, well you win some and lose some but I wouldn't get hung up on it.  I wouldn't crawl through the brush after the thing under the best of circumstances.  Makes a nice pelt but ya can't eat them and most guys treat em as vermin.  I'm sure you would've liked 6MMGHOZT to take the shot but he learned an important lesson nonetheless - when the shot presents itself, you've got to make a quick decision and get the shot off.  You did good and glad to see ya taking the lad out there hunting.

Keep after them, they probably need a good killing  things are getting thick in many places.

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Hey Dave, I am a beleiver in Varget.I have a load in my 7x57mm custnm that will put three holes  in a fingernail at 100 yards with a 140 gr Sierra bullet.I run it in my .308 Win model 10 Tactical  with excellent results  and my left hand Mauser in 308 I gave my oldest southpaw son will be using it too with both 150,165 and 168 gr bullets.I would have thought that Varget would not outshoot BL(C)2 in a .223 but I learned a new one, again.I am gonna order that chamber mic Midway has, either that or buy a box of 50.52 or 55 grain bullets and smoke a bullet and  adjust my seating die to where I can just close the bolt with a bit of tension.Then put a caliper on it to the marks of the lands on the bullet.I am curious too, how far the oal chamber length is in my rifle now.

Mountaineer, evening to ya.Thanks on my birthday.Just another day but it was sure good eating.I imagine I resembled a raccoon with a bunch of crawdads the way I tore that plate of crab legs up.The people eating the sissy plates of  a peice of fish, kept eyeballing me a little funny..Thanks on the yote also.I wish I wouldv`e been able to get 6MM the shot instead of me ,but our seated position and how close to us the yote was ,there was no time.I like being able to take a pic of them too and stick em up on my gunroom wall.I try to take 6MM as much as possible with me to hunt, but there are some places I go that are just too rough and are really out of his skill level.I do my best  coyote calling alone when I am seriously hunting but I enjoy watching him get all quiet and serious looking when we get out of the truck and start humping it to our hide locations.He is doing real good at his noise discipline, but I admit I get on his rear ..hard ..when he moves like a bull through the brush or drags his feet and fidgets when we`re seated.He keeps his groups plenty deer killer close at 100 , and at 50 yards he is definately not bad at all.I cant wait to see him roll his first yote or deer.He gets to deer hunt in 2 weeks and if I have done my job good enough ,we`ll be eating on a buck and a doe both early this year ,courtesy of him.I am gonna do more with these light bullets, but I also wanna try some loads with some 50 gr  and 55`s .Like Dave said ,I think I can get better accuracy for sure.I know the BC on these 40 gr bullets isnt worth a crap compared to one of the heavy conventional bullets.

On another note.Fellas there is a good member amongst us I want to publically thanks.JAYRANDO sent me enough Frontier,Lake City and he said Winchester brass is in the boxes too, to keep me happy for quite a while.I  just looked through them a minute ago after the UPS guy came by.JAY, thanks ,I do truly appreciate it.100 peices of virgin Win brass from Midway cost me about 12 bucks I think, plus shipping.With guys like him around it goes to show how good of folks hunters and shooters are.My wife mailed  the money order for shipping Saturday Jay.For how much brass I got, shipping is nothing..Jay if you ever need any help starting out with reloading, or anything else,let me know.I owe you one..

 

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I dx`d Hornady Factory ammo today and sighted my 223 with the 27 gr load of Varget and the 40 gr VMax.Today it yielded its best group so far at .538" outside diameter  for a center to center of .315" .I am  gonna stay with this load.I cant ask much more from it than this.I think It would be better if I shot it a little better, but I am happy enough...


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Now, don't shoot it any more, you will wear it out.
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lol, Dave..I don`t think I can do that.I got rained out of work and loaded me 40 rounds more this morning.I carried it tonight with me calling coyotes, but no takers that wanted lead poisoning...This little rifle is sure fun to shoot.No recoil and very accurate for an off the shelf sporter.That`ll tend to wear a barrel out around my place.

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