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    Posted: 11 August 2003 at 15:00

     The Lyman 195 grain round nose bullet has intrigued me for years. I've loaded a few for plinking in both the .38 S&W, .38 Special, and .357 magnum. Have any of you here used this bullet on game? I'm curious as to how effective it is.AW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2003 at 16:27
Never used any, been meaning to buy the mold seems like forever.
Just always something else takes priority.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2003 at 16:34

 

 Nope , can I shoot them in my Marlin 336 35 Rem. Yup still a rookie. AW got a couple of hundred loads on the 348 sent my way. Are you interested?, cuzz I will gratefully send them your way

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2003 at 06:32
No large game critters with Lyman 358430, and I've used it in the three calibers mentioned too.  It flattens jackrabbits with any center-mass hit, and the two coyotes I've hit with it (357 velocities) collapsed at the shots.  On the coyotes, both shots exited, and one of them went out sideways--so maybe these longer boolits tumble after impact?  Dunno for sure, but the boolits are very accurate and seem to anchor small game well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 August 2003 at 01:19
I've heard for years that the 200 grain RN bullet in .38 Special had the reputation of yawing or tumbling after impact. This was supposedly why they had such a reputation for effectiveness. Can't help but think there might be something to the theory. I'd have to check the various twist rates in .38/.357 bores but it's a known fact that bullets that are only marginally stable tend to keyhole once they hit something. (like the early M16 did) AW
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2003 at 16:39
There are a couple of pictures on castpics of H&G, No. 138, 200 grain and No. 127, 230 grain. Interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2003 at 17:24
You want a flat point bullet for anything bigger than the coyotes. Push a 200 gr. FN out of a .35 rifle, and you will be able to deal with deer, and probably elk, quite nicely. I've been experimenting with .35 from a rifle, from 200-277 gr., and only see signs of yaw on the larger bullets when pushed too fast for the twist. With a pistol, I don't believe you could reach the 1650-1700fps threshhold for best performance with this weight bullet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2003 at 14:16
I read one article online that said that the 200 grain .357 RN pushed hard out of a .357 revolver was a VERY serious big game load. (for a .357) Whether it's a lot different or a little different with a flat point or not was never addressed. You would think that an FP in the same weight would be better; but how much?AW 
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