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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 12:25 |
my oldest son, joe (15) is a typical teenage kid who usually doesn't have
the common sense to keep his shoes tied, but he did really well this weekend, and managed to spot and track a decent 3x4 mulie buck yesterday. the antlers were nothing big, but the thing must have dressed out at about 225 lbs. my dad also got a young antelope buck. mike (my 13-yr old) and i took the better looking coulee and hiked around about 6 miles, plus little cuts and ravines, and saw not a single thing except a lot of poop and tracks. there were signs that a bird hunter had been there either earlier that day or the day before, so perhaps the deer had moved over to where my dad and joe were. we finally saw one mulie doe running about a hundred yards in front of the pickup as we were driving back to the gate, but there was never a very good shot, so i passed and watched her scramble up the side of the coulee. i got some great pix of the country i hunt in on saturday, but didn't have a camera on hand for joe's deer on sunday. we've still got the head, and i'll get a pic of him with it sometime this week. he shot it at about 175 yards with my .30/30 (150-grn remington factory ammo), and we've got a full deer with no lost meat, same as the antelope. still my tag, mike's and my dad's deer tag to fill. i had no more antelope opportunity, so i missed out on bagging one this year, but that's alright, i certainly tried hard to get it, and that's good enough. had another opportunity for a very big, fat muley doe yesterday, which we saw bedded down in a field while we were looking for my dad's jacket, which he had taken off while dressing the antelope. unfortunately, the jacket had blown a half-mile or so into someone else's land, and we saw the doe while we were looking for it. since my dad had his cell phone, i tried calling the landowner, but he was out. no one around for miles, and he probably wouldn't have minded anyway, but i had two kids in the pickup and an example to set, so i passed on the shot. it sucks even more because she was less than 50 yards away and just lying there calm and serene as an angel while we idled past in the pickup. ah, well.....we never did find the damn jacket, either! lol..... in any case, back to joe, he really is enthusiastic now that he has a couple of deer under his belt, and i was impressed with the way he kept up with dad (who has wooden legs, it seems, and can hike anywhere for any length of time). he also did well tracking, spotting blood that my dad had missed. the hunting stories above were all from yesterday. saturday, billy and i hiked another good-looking courlee system while dad and mike went to pretty much the same place where dad and joe went sunday. saturday was a pretty slim day; billy (my 11-yr old) and i only saw 5 mulies, about 500 yards and running away from something up the side of a coulee. dad and mike came across another nice buck, but mike had trouble looking though the scope and the muley made its escape. as it turns out, the eye relief as well as the focus were pretty far off for him, and he hadn't mentioned it till then. before at the range, he had always moved his head around and squinted till it was "good enough," i told him from now on, he's got to let me know about stuff like that! anyway, it's pretty bad that we aren't seeing so many deer, because there have been nearly no hunters except us, and on the opening day of antelope season (october 8th) we saw at least two separate herds with at least 2 dozen deer in each herd. the coulee is probably 6 or 7 miles long by 150-200 yards at the bottom and probably 500 yards wide on top, with a very nice dry creek bed, brush, ravines, cuts and draws running all through it. there are 3 adjacent coulees that are just as nice, but not as long, maybe only a couple miles each. on top of that, tehre mis also strip-farm land extending for a half-mile on top of the whole coulee system, and grazing land going the other direction. CRP, riverbottom and some wetlands are also on this land. the terrain is perfect, but i think that too many hunters on the state school section that is to the south make them nervous, and they must have gone somewhere. Edited by TasunkaWitko |
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Looking foreward to the pics. Way to go Joe.. Dad too..
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Congratulations guys. You don't need those pics......I believe you Ron. BEAr |
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Very nice, congrats to your son and father.
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YOU GO BOY,WAY TO GROW EM POPS. Can't wiat for some pictures.
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Congrats to your son & your dad. Good hunting!
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Good for Joe, I was betting on Mike scoring first but his turn is coming.
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TasunkaWitko
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i figured mike would be first as well. he has had, at least 4 times, deer
standing broadside in front of him less than a hundred yards away. for various reaosns, he hasn't shot, but i think that now that joe has one, he's got a rep to protect, so he will shoot. rob - still hoping for an afternoon hunt in your neck of the woods. we are either going to be down on the 16th or else the 19th. i'll kep you informed~~ |
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Congratulations all around! Jeff.
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TasunkaWitko
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here are the pix of the head. the light was really bad outside, which is why
we took the pix inside. luckily, my wife wasn't home! ---------------------- |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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this mulie seems typical of a lot of mulies in this area. large bodies, small
antlers. i am assuming that it ahs something to do with the soil, because they sure get plenty to eat, but it might not have the right nutrients for antler gorowth. this mulie would have eaten mostly grains with a good dose of alfalfa and some native grasses. sage is present but i believe would have been a last resort with so much grain nearby. |
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Nice buck and I see you were watching a little TBS this weekend. I think there are lots of reasons for smaller antlered deer in this area, but I don't think genetics is one of them. Here are a few bucks that were taken not far (within 30 miles) from where I assume you were hunting. http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID6/11071.html
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TasunkaWitko
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craig -
those are sure some nice bucks! i would agree that genetics probably isn't much of a factor; like you, i have seen many in the area that were just as big as anything found in the center of the state, including in a massive buck in the very same couleee where this one was taken. at the same time, though, i have noticed a big difference between here and down in lewistown, where they seem to have wider and more massive racks as a rule. food or soil minerals seemed like a likely reason, but i am not sure. one other factor that i was thinking of was age. i am thinking that if this buck was an older guy, his body might not be producing all of the testosterone-related goodies for antler gorwth. once again, this is just a hypothesis, not anything based on science. |
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TasunkaWitko
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judging from a couple of pix sent to me by big sky, i'd say that they get
pretty big up in the northeastern part of montana too! |
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ron: looks good !!!! i bet he was pumped when he went to school..... now the big ???? is where is your deer??? just like mine still running in the woods. |
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still looking for mine......
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ron: if you find yours maybe mine is with it ????? you know its good when the kids get a deer, BUT then they think they are alot smarter than you !!!! my buddy and i were thinking next year we are going to put the kids in their own camp down the road and let them go on their own !!! we are also thinking about the same thing this summer fishing. going to keep track of what the kids catch and what we get.. this should be good.... KIDS ????? sometimes they think they are better than the teacher. or as the old saying goes , you buy them books and all they do is eat the pages....... |
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TasunkaWitko
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so far (knock on wood) the kids are still eager to learn, and think that dad
and grandpa have a few trix left to teach them. the day will come however, i imagine! my dad and i are already getting into "debates" on how to do things. in general, my ideas prove out the ebst, but specific to the area, his are definitely better, so we both learn from each other. |
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Very cool Tash...Congrats to the young hunter...I have a feeling he`ll stick a hole in many ,many more bucks in his time...175 yards with a 30-30 is a pretty derned good shot to boot...
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